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Bright Raven

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God's Truth said:
I give you scriptures all the time.

You don't know these scriptures about there is only one God and he is the Father, and, the Word was God and became flesh?
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asked for it didn't I?

Here's one for you. How can you be so confused

Matthew 28:19 New International Version (NIV)

19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
 
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meshak said:
I make a lot of sense because I don't twist around.:)
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Still waiting for a response to this, oh non-twisty one.
meshak said:
Nope, the Bible does not say God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.

It is your doctrine, not scriptural.

God is only one. You made three Gods.
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JudgeRightly said:
Yes it does.



Nope.



Yes, it is.



Something no trinitarian disagrees with.



Nope.


THREE QUESTIONS TO DETERMINE IF THE TRINITY IS BIBLICALLY TRUE OR FALSE. If any one of these questions can be answered 'no,' then the Trinity can be rejected as an unbiblical belief. But if all three can be answered 'yes,' then the concept of the Trinity can be accepted as true.

1. Does the Bible mention three distinct persons?

2. Does the Bible refer to each of these persons as God?

3. Does the Bible teach there is only one God?

The answers:

1. Are three distinct persons mentioned? YES.
A. The Father (1 John 3:1)
B. The Son (1 John 1:3)
C. The Holy Spirit (John 14:6; 14:26; 15:26; 16:13-14; Romans 15:30; Ephesians 4:30)

2. Are each of these persons referred to as God? YES.
A. God the Father (1Thessalonians 1:1)
B. God the Son (John 1:1; 20:28; Hebrews 1:8-9)
C. God the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3-4)

3. Is there only one God? YES.
(see Deuteronomy 4:35-39; Psalm 86:10; Isaiah 45:5; 45:22)



If you can refute everything in the box above, then you can say that the trinity is not Biblical.

If not, then it is, and it should be considered as truth.
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Bright Raven said:
asked for it didn't I?

Here's one for you. How can you be so confused

Matthew 28:19 New International Version (NIV)

19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
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God shows Himself to us in three.
 
steko

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God's Truth said:
I have explained that in detail. Why don't you study harder?



Jesus had his resurrected Spiritual Body First then came to earth as a man, then ascended to the Father with the same Spiritual Body he had before the world began.
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To 'resurrect' means to be raised from the dead.
According to your statement, you are saying that Christ Jesus died and resurrected before He came to earth as a man, then died on the cross and resurrected again and then ascended into heaven.

Absurd!
 
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steko said:
To 'resurrect' means to be raised from the dead.
According to your statement, you are saying that Christ Jesus died and resurrected before He came to earth as a man, then died on the cross and resurrected again and then ascended into heaven.

Absurd!
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No, Jesus' body before coming to earth is the body he has now. He is the First and the Last. He is before all things, even before all humans.
 
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No, Jesus' body before coming to earth is the body he has now. He is the First and the Last. He is before all things, even before all humans.
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The body that He has now is the body that was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit, lived His life as a human being/man, died on cross as a man, was raised from the tomb the third day glorified in the same body and ascended to heaven forty days later as a man, and will return to earth the same way He left as a man.

No one is true man that did not descend genetically from Adam(man).

Christ is truly man(adam) and truly GOD.

He was not man before being conceived in Mary.

GOD the WORD did appear as only 'apparently' man in the OT but only looked human, as He did not descend from Adam.
 
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steko said:
The body that He has now is the body that was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit, lived His life as a human being/man, died on cross as a man, was raised from the tomb the third day glorified in the same body and ascended to heaven forty days later as a man, and will return to earth the same way He left as a man.

No one is true man that did not descend genetically from Adam(man).

Christ is truly man(adam) and truly GOD.

He was not man before being conceived in Mary.

GOD the WORD did appear as only 'apparently' man in the OT but only looked human, as He did not descend from Adam.
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Jesus didn't have a flesh body that ages and dies.

Jesus had a body in heaven, and it is the glorious Spiritual body that we will receive when we are resurrected.
 
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JudgeRightly said:
Spirits don't have bodies, GT, that's why they're spirits.
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But God has a SOUL. A SOUL is a body with a spirit.

(Leviticus 26:11) (Leviticus 26:30) (Isaiah 42:1) (Zechariah 11:8) (Matthew 12:18) (Hebrews 10:38).

These scriptures speak of God having a soul…a soul is a body with a spirit. If these scriptures are not about Jesus, and if Jesus did not exist in a Spiritual body, then how God who lives in unapproachable light that no one has seen have a body?
 
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No body is alive without a spirit.

However, spirits can and do live on after the death of their body, if they ever had one.
 
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