Very absurd.
ECT The Same Yesterday, and Today, and For Ever
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Yeppers.
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It sure does.
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A spirit without a body does not have flesh and bones.
So you are saying when people die physically, they don't have a spirit that lives on in consciousness?
Christ did not have that body until the conception of Mary as a son of man (adam).
So, it wasn't a body that grew from fetus to adulthood, didn't suffer hunger, thirst, pain, etc? Couldn't die by such instances as say, crucifixion?
There is no point in Christ's resurrection if His human body was not raised to life and glorification, thus redeeming humanity.
Christ Jesus ascended bodily, though transformed, it was the same human body which was conceived in Mary, lived a human life, suffered a human death and was raised glorified the third day and ascended into heaven forty days later. He will return in the same glorified human body.
Only in your mistaken view of what the doctrine of the trinity states.
glorydaz
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Yep
Gen. 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
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He had the body he has now, and he had it before he came to the world.
How do you think Jesus existed in heaven before coming to earth?
There is only one GOD and He is the Son.
.... or do you imply by your statement that the Son is not GOD and only the Father is GOD?
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glorydaz
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Take pity on her. She doesn't know the difference between the Holy Spirit and a spirit being.
No, GT, a soul is NOT a body with a spirit.
A soul is different than a body and different than a spirit.
Man is made of body AND soul AND spirit. How can man be made of body and (body with a spirit) and spirit? Why not just say "body and spirit"?
1 Thessalonians 5:23 explicitly states all three as individual parts, and Hebrews 4:12 says that soul and spirit can be divided, which is not possible if "soul" means "body with a spirit."
So? He also has a spirit and a body.
Namely: Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Nope. See above.
God the Father and God the Holy Spirit do not have bodies, they have never had a body. God the Son did not have a body until the incarnation in the four Gospels. Now God the Son has a body where he didn't before.
A body allows us to interact with the physical world.
A soul allows us to interact with other creatures that have souls.
A spirit allows us to interact with God.
All three make up man, and is what is meant by God making man in His "image."
As a spirit, with no need for a body.
Technically, the GOD/man called Jesus began in Mary's womb.
Before that, the Being which the Scriptures call GOD the WORD existed as pure infinite Spirit/Mind... bodiless.
The only permanent body which He ever had was the one when He became flesh in the womb of Mary.
When GOD the WORD appeared as the Angel of YHVH in the OT it was only a temporary supernatural projection.
Nope.
He rose in the same body that was taken from the cross and was placed in the tomb, scars and all.
That body was not replaced with another, it was the same body that was placed in the tomb.
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That is what all people say when I prove their doctrine wrong.
Yep, every person professing Christianity should understand that simple and salvific fact.
But, you haven't proved it wrong... you just think you have.
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There is only one God and He is the Father, and He came as a Son.
It is a human explanation of something that comes from you is a son, or a daughter.
The words of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ ought to settle it for GT.
But as usual she likes to twist scripture to her own man-made agenda.
Luke 24:39 KJV
(39) Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Spirits do NOT have flesh and bones.
The risen Lord Jesus Christ's body did have flesh and bones.
The risen Lord Jesus Christ was NOT a spirit.
He just told His disciples He was not a spirit.