To Those Who Think Adulterers, Homosexuals, Fornicators etc...

[Tambora]

we've been over this tam

and it's been instructive - i sincerely thank you for your participation in the discussion

I just don't see how one could not see mercy in it when David did not receive what was deserved per the law.
If enforcing the law is justice, then it was not justice to not enforce the law upon David.
So it had to be something else besides justice when David did not receive the penalty for adultery per the law.
I don't know what you would call that except for mercy.

 

[quip]

IF the evidence is clear that someone committed murder, why should they not receive the death penalty?

Sure that's a debatable option. Your list of capital offenses extended beyond murder though.

 

[glorydaz]

i would say that God had other plans for David

was God merciful when He killed David's child?

Did God "kill" David's child?

 

[glorydaz]

I just don't see how one could not see mercy in it when David did not receive what was deserved per the law.
If enforcing the law is justice, then it was not justice to not enforce the law upon David.
So it had to be something else besides justice when David did not receive the penalty for adultery per the law.
I don't know what you would call that except for mercy.

And perhaps reaping the consequences of what was sown. :idunno:

 

[drbrumley]

Did God "kill" David's child?

That's an affirmative

The Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and it became very ill. 16 David therefore pleaded with God for the child; David fasted, and went in and lay all night on the ground. 17 The elders of his house stood beside him, urging him to rise from the ground; but he would not, nor did he eat food with them. 18 On the seventh day the child died.

 

[drbrumley]

It's irrelevant because taking the life of an adulterer's child was not the penalty for adultery per the law.
The penalty was losing your life by being stoned to death, and GOD showed David mercy instead of imposing law upon him.

While I can see what your saying, it does seem that not everything is in black and white.

 

[ok doser]

While I can see what your saying, it does seem that not everything is in black and white.

scripture makes clear that God meted out punishments upon David in ways other than tam seems to be demanding He should have


as is His prerogative

 

[drbrumley]

You make a fair point here. However, a murderer has taken the decision away from another person over whether or not they live or die. They have chosen to prematurely end the life of another, and so it seems fitting that the punishment for such is to lose ones own life.

David wasn't killed....

 

[ok doser]

David wasn't killed....

i don't think his punishment is a model we'd want to implement - child killed, wives raped...





.... crops burned, stores looted, people stampeded... :chuckle:

 

[drbrumley]

scripture makes clear that God meted out punishments upon David in ways other than tam seems to be demanding He should have


as is His prerogative

Agreed it is his prerogative. But I also agree with Tam that david was indeed shown mercy. David could never have been written about, that he was a man after God's own heart, if God decided to take him, as he could have.

 

[drbrumley]

i don't think his punishment is a model we'd want to implement - child killed, wives raped...





.... crops burned, stores looted, people stampeded... :chuckle:

There is alot to digest in the case of david. Shoot there is alot to digest for every one of us.

 

[Stripe]

Agreed it is his prerogative. But I also agree with Tam that david was indeed shown mercy. David could never have been written about, that he was a man after God's own heart, if God decided to take him, as he could have.

I'd prefer to die myself rather than see my son go.

 

[Truster]

In regard David, he lived his salvation and in relation to his sin he was able to write: "Blessed is the man unto whom Yah Veh imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile".

 

[Tambora]

While I can see what your saying, it does seem that not everything is in black and white.

Exactly.

 

[Tambora]

I'd prefer to die myself rather than see my son go.

Sure, I would too.
But on the other hand the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ didn't do it that way.

 

[Tambora]

scripture makes clear that God meted out punishments upon David in ways other than tam seems to be demanding He should have


as is His prerogative

It isn't Tambora demanding it, it is the Mosaic law demanding it.

 

[Rusha]

Sure that's a debatable option. Your list of capital offenses extended beyond murder though.

I know ... it includes offenses that maliciously destroy the lives of others.

 

[ok doser]

I know ... it includes offenses that maliciously destroy the lives of others.

then it should include adultery

 

[ok doser]

It isn't Tambora demanding it, it is the Mosaic law demanding it.

are you suggesting that God should be held to Mosaic law? :freak:

 

[ok doser]

I'd prefer to die myself rather than see my son go.

i agree

God's "mercy" on David was to punish him harder than Mosaic law would have