lifeisgood
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Yes, BELIEVERS actually do what they believe they are called by God to do without falter or hesitation through the Holy Spirit.
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Yes, BELIEVERS actually do what they believe they are called by God to do without falter or hesitation through the Holy Spirit.
God's Truth
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Believing who Jesus is, it is not enough to save you.
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The evil one always ADDS to the Word of God.... that's EVIL...
The Bible does NOT say that Paul will be told what he must do TO BE SAVED.
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God's Truth
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Your false doctrines hinder people from being saved.
Tell me what Paul had to do before he was saved?
lifeisgood
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Which means they believe WHO Jesus is HOWEVER they reject WHAT Jesus did.
WHO Jesus is and WHAT He did to save anybody cannot be separated.
No.
NOTHING about TO BE SAVED.
You CANNOT prove your FALSE DOCTRINE by giving only the parts that you think will prove your false doctrine.
Paul was ALREADY saved because Paul asked 'Lord what do you want me to do?' It was not TO BE SAVED but because Paul knew something had ALREADY happened to him.
NOW, this is OBEYING: The risen Lord Jesus said, 'Ananias, go!' 'Ananias, went' and told Paul all about it. (Acts 9)
lifeisgood
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You have to ALSO believe WHAT Jesus did.
lifeisgood
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You mean WHO Jesus is and WHAT Jesus did is SUFFICIENT to save the worst of sinner.
Absolutely nothing. He didn't even throw himself off his horse. Imagine that.
If God raised you from the dead, God would have been manifest in your flesh. The statement is nothing special, and doesn't necessarily have idolatrous implications.
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You have some crazy ideas.
God's Truth
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Paul's conversion proves you wrong.
Paul wasn't saved as soon as he believed in Jesus.
This is what Jesus said to Paul:
Acts 9:5 "Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied.
6 but get up and enter the city, and it will be told you what you must do."…
hahahaha Now what does Jesus say?
Jesus says it will be told you WHAT YOU MUST DO.
At least, they are tolerable. For example, I don't claim most people go to hell, even though I don't believe it is a permanent state. Everlasting Punishment, or an everlasting correction? Some people need an everlasting punishment to correct their behavior. Most people don't.
God's Truth
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Paul was not saved until he obeyed Jesus.
Paul OBEYED and WENT to where Jesus said to go.
Paul had to hear the message that saves.
Paul didn't eat or drink for three days and he spent praying.
Can you imagine those prayers of repentance?
Paul had many women and men dragged out of their homes, beat, put in prison, and tortured, then put to death.
Paul tried to destroy the church.
I can only imagine the heartfelt shame and repentance of Paul. Just imagine the repentance he had done before he was saved.
After he was saved he was water baptized.
All have to believe and obey to get saved and to stay saved.
It is good and right to speak of the truth, and to tell others what kind of heart it is that God saves. It will keep you out of false doctrines; it will help those who are not yet saved to get saved.
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Where do you get these crazy ideas? They are not from the Word of God, the Bible.
lifeisgood
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Where is that TO BE SAVED part you left out?
Yes, the risen Lord was going to tell Paul how much he had to suffer for His name's sake.
“Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came here, has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” (Acts 9:14).
Did you read that gt? "Brother Saul, I, Ananias, obeyed as soon as the risen Lord Jesus told me to come so that you can physically see and can receive the Holy Spirit.
Or do you, gt, read Ananias saying, 'Hey, brother Saul, I, Ananias, obeyed as soon as the risen Lord Jesus told me to come so that you can be saved?' Is that how you read this part, gt?
The risen Lord was not seeking to save anyone but Saul.
All saw the light, but only Saul saw our Lord.
All heard the voice, but only Saul understood it (Acts 9:7).
And what was said was addressed specifically to Saul, and not to the rest.
That you believe the risen Lord Jesus or not it is clear from the narrative in Acts 9 my risen Lord intercepted Saul to save him, and this my risen Lord did right there at the road to Damascus BEFORE Paul entered Damascus, AFTER, when Ananias OBEYED, Paul RECEIVED the HOLY SPIRIT because Paul had already been saved.
Or do your false doctrine teach that UNbelievers can RECEIVE the Holy Spirit also?
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lifeisgood
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Hoooooooooray, I, gt, say I won!
"...how much he must suffer for the sake of my name.” (Acts 9:15-16)
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False doctrine.
Because the risen Lord had already saved him.
From the risen Lord Himself. What a privilege.
I can imagine Saul thanking the risen Lord for changing his heart.
False doctrine.
There is NOTHING in the narrative that says Saul was praying prayers of repentance.
Yes. Saul did that.
Yes. Saul did that.
I believe Paul always felt bad about what he did before the risen Lord Jesus Himself saved him at the road toward Damascus.
Water baptism was a SIGN to the Jew. The Jew expects signs. Jesus told John the Baptist to water baptized Him as a sign to the Jew.
False doctrine mixed with God's Truth, how helpful can it be?
False doctrine mixed with God's Truth, how helpful can it be to anybody?
lifeisgood
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I would appreciate if you define what gift you're talking about.
I am talking about the GIFT of Salvation exclusively, and there is absolutely nothing I can do to obtain it. I do not deserve it no matter what.
No. Rejecting the gift is saying 'I don't want it'.
What giftS are you talking about, please.
I am talking about the GIFT of Salvation exclusively, and there is absolutely nothing I can do to obtain it. I do not deserve it no matter what.
Not unless you define which gift(s) you're talking about.
Everybody has the right to speak in defense of whomever they want.
No apologies needed.
lifeisgood
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“Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came here, has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” (Acts 9:14).
Hey, @gt, do you read that Ananias said 'Brother Saul' BEFORE according to your false doctrine Paul was not even saved yet?
Or do your false doctrine also go around calling UNbelievers, who are NOT saved yet brothers?
Hey, @gt, do you read that Ananias said 'Brother Saul' BEFORE according to your false doctrine Paul was not even saved yet?
Or do your false doctrine also go around calling UNbelievers, who are NOT saved yet brothers?
glorydaz
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I don't need you to do anything, Pops. You simply don't understand that God has PERSONALITY. You aren't posting verses that speak to that issue. You won't, in fact.