The Trinity

[Bright Raven]

Good job!

If Matthew 28:19 is to be used, the WHOLE verse needs to be quoted


​​​​​​ [h=1]Matthew 28:19 King James Version (KJV)[/h]
¹⁹ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

That says in the NAME of whom? The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost, the three in one God. So the post is shakey to say the least.

 

[oatmeal]

If Matthew 28:19 is to be used, the WHOLE verse needs to be quoted


​​​​​​ [h=1]Matthew 28:19 King James Version (KJV)[/h]
¹⁹ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

That says in the NAME of whom? The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost, the three in one God. So the post is shakey to say the least.

Evidently, you did not read the post I replied to

 

[Bright Raven]

If Matthew 28:19 is to be used, the WHOLE verse needs to be quoted


​​​​​​ [h=1]Matthew 28:19 King James Version (KJV)[/h]
¹⁹ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

That says in the NAME of whom? The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost, the three in one God. So the post is shakey to say the least.

Try post 25079

 

[rstrats]

​​​​​​ re: "Matthew 28:19 King James Version (KJV) 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

The name of the Father is thought by some to be Yahweh, and the name of the Son is thought by some to be Yahshua, but I don't think that I've heard of a name for the Holy Ghost.


BTW, the statistic's column shows 25,043 responses but only 472 views. What am I missing?

 

[Bright Raven]

​​​​​​ re: "Matthew 28:19 King James Version (KJV) 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

The name of the Father is thought by some to be Yahweh, and the name of the Son is thought by some to be Yahshua, but I don't think that I've heard of a name for the Holy Ghost.


BTW, the statistic's column shows 25,043 responses but only 472 views. What am I missing?

Good Question

 

[Ps82]

Is the Trinity biblical?
Is the Trinity taught in the Bible?

These two concepts/hints alone proves the multiplicity of that the ONE God is them and they are HIM.
My Father worketh hitherto and I work. Let US make man after OUR image and Our likeness.

This is something which men with our limitations cannot fathom but with God all things are possible. The ONE God created ONE image for his personal use. He used it to be seen as the Father and used it again to appear as The Promised Son. The third part of the trinity is the invisible Holy Spirit conformed to be in followers of Christ to help and conform them ... mainly to hold them away from judgement and destruction at the Second death. All three are the ONE God working on behalf of mankind.

 

[Ps82]

Now, even though there is ONE God working for us and in us ... there are three distinct individuals. Look at just a few comments which let us know they are individuals -even as divine as they all are as God.

First the The WORD was the voice of God. When this person of the God Head spoke creation came into being. Whether the voice of God was spoken audibly or came as a quiet voice inside of a person, He was a living unique individual ... who just happened to be God and yet was with God. No one had ever seen his physical presence as the Messiah until the days of John the Baptist. God had sent HIS WORD into the world to speak to the world and tell the world HE was the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. Pilot asked him: What is the truth ... and Jesus said I AM...

Now, the Holy Spirit is God, but he has a specific jobs and his access was conformed in a way that he could come into man/believers in order to hold them by his might unto salvation and to teach us the will of God and to reveal our Messiah to us. I believe Jesus's sacrifice made THAT WAY possible.

Lastly, The Father was the person of the God Head who was seen by men [Old Testament] - even by Adam and Woman in the Garden. I look at the Father this way: He was the one invisible God, but took on a visible presence so He would appear among men and angels. The image/presence was not God but rather his tool.It was the visible form of God who knew Moses face to face. Who dis miracles among the children of Israel ans so forth.

I like to think of the Father's presence being like a pre-incarnate presence of his promised Son/The WORD.
Why? Because there is ONE God who created only ONE image and proclaimed it was "Our image and likeness."
Why? Because Jesus said when you have seem ME you have SEEN the Father. Since he looked like the Father LORD then when you saw the Father it was like seeing the presence of the future messiah.

He told religious teachers of the Sanhedron that they would have recognized who he was - as God the Father ... if they had ever been given the privilege of hearing the Father's voice or seeing his shape. John 5:37

Each one in the God Head are described so uniquely according to who they knew face to face and the times they each worked among men and angels, and in what manner they accomplished their work, everyone can recognize them as individuals. The one spiritual God was able to accomplish this triune existence within creation.