dodge
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Remember God is not the author of confusion. God does not leave off important information and make His word a guessing game.
ECT Words have meaning unless of course you have bit into the lie of MAD.
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Remember God is not the author of confusion. God does not leave off important information and make His word a guessing game.
SaulToPaul 2
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17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
SaulToPaul 2
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Good point, and that's precisely how we can know that the gospel of the kingdom is not 1 Cor 15:-14 (KJV).
dodge
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STP, filled with the Holy Spirit THEN BAPTIZED.
17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
After Paul was filled with the Holy Spirit arose and was baptized. CONTEXT and sequence of events.
FILLED with the HOLY SPIRIT THEN BAPTIZED
SaulToPaul 2
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17 and 18 are parallel, not sequential
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- Whether Paul was water baptized or not is irrelevant.
- You do NOT have scripture to support the idea that EVERYONE that is saved is WATER baptized.
- You are a zealot that will not let scripture or logic divert you from your story.
whitestone
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yep in 17 Ananias tells brother Saul whats about to happen then in 18 "it happens"...
dodge
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After the scales fell from his eyes he then received sight AND arose and was baptized.
And was baptized is significant. Something happened and the he was baptized.
dodge
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Did you quote the verse you wanted to ?
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
SaulToPaul 2
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dodge
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Got ya, I have been known to do same,lol.
sirayuk
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Paul is not having the obligation to repeat what it already in other parts of scripture, the whole word is one. Different writers and one spirit.
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The absence of certain doctrines is very telling, even if you want to ignore it.
The absence of the gospel of the grace of God from books other than Paul's is equally telling. Though many here will try in vain for force other scriptures to be "the gospel of the grace of God".
dodge
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Now I am really confused in your post 1 Cor 15:1-4 you said we can know this is not the Gospel.! Another typo ?
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1 Corinthians 15:1–4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you athe gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye ||keep in memory †what I preached unto you, eunless ye have believed in vain. 3 For fI delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again ithe third day according to the scriptures:
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SaulToPaul 2
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dodge
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What are you saying is the difference between what Jesus preached and this ?
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Jesus preached that to Paul for all of us.
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Most of churchianity can't read any "bapt*" word and NOT see water.
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Baptism is for the remission of sin, not salvation.
No one is "saved" by being baptized by anyone.
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When did I say that they were?