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We have to repent of our sins to be forgiven for our sins.
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Musty clearly sees your falsehoods.
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People misunderstand Paul. Paul is explaining why no one has to do the ceremonial works of the law anymore.
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No such saving faith as faith alone. James says it is dead and cannot save anyone.
Just believe the Bible and not what you think you know from false teachers.
Just believe the Bible and not what you think you know from false teachers.
You're also confused.
Fact is that before Peter had been able to request a work from Cornelius (the confession of sin via submission to water baptism, Acts 2:38)...note:
Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Or as Peter later described that...
Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
At which point, Peter already depicted by Luke as confused in that chapter, THEN commanded their submission to Israel's water ritual UNDER THE LAW (John 1:24,25; Matt. 23:2,3) but it was too late - they were actually saved under the Pauline principle described in such as Romans 4:5.
Acts 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren: 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
Nevertheless, Romans 14: 5 towards ya.
No he is not - he is asserting that the gospel he preached was not handed down to him by anyone.
And he is saying that in opposition to the your exact kind of works based gospel - the Law for righteousness - that Paul is writing against in Galatians- this side of the FINISHED work of Christ that Paul preached.
The Law for righteousness had been a gospel that had been in effect and handed down over many generations until.after the Cross, but was the very gospel the fools who had infected the Galatians with, this side of the FINISHED work of the Cross of Christ.
This here had been "the righteousness which is of the Law..."
Deuteronomy 6:24 And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. 6:25 And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.
Here is a plain (as your every day denial) example of THAT righteousness...
Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
THAT is THIS..
Romans 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
In contrast to this...
Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Which is why Paul wrote this to people just like you...
Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
What then, had been the actual purpose of "the righteousness which is of the Law"?
3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Rom. 5:8 towards you.
heir
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No, he's revealing this (Romans 16:25-27 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV).
1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
heir
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Peter is not the apostle OF the Gentiles and didn't even preach the gospel Paul preached to those Gentiles.
Wrong. They never heard the gospel of Christ, but preaching consistent with the gospel of the circumcision.
heir
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heir
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You get neg repped for your perverted gospel.
glorydaz
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Ha....you got that by just reading a verse? You really should try reading such verses more often.
heir
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You lying sssssssssssssnake.
heir
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vs.
Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
No - she knows that is what we rightly assert but that she erroneously rejects.
Rom. 5:8.
glorydaz
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I realize that, Danoh. I was being facetious. You know....how us "graceless ones" are so apt to do.
oatmeal
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You should ask an Aryan or a unitarian.
I know what I believe and that is the scripture.
I too have noticed that the trinitarian doctrine requires that they add to the word of God to support their claims, they ignore and reject parts of the word of God to support their claims, they change the word of God to support their claims, and they refuse to believe what is written at times. Some do it knowingly some unknowingly.
The gift of salvation is referred to by other words and phrases. It is called the gift of the Holy Spirit, it is called the gift of eternal life, it is referred to as being born again of incorruptible seed, it is called the gift of righteosness. Those positive attributes tell us what negatives we are saved from.
Romans 10:9-10 is both clear and complete.
To receive salvation, the unsaved person must meet two requirements.
1. Confess with their mouth the lord Jesus
2. Believe in the their heart that God raised him from the dead.
That's it.
No more, no less
You don't have to be a Biblical scholar to receive salvation.
You don't have to quit your bad habits to be saved
You dont' have to confess your sins to be saved (you confess the savior from sin, the lord Jesus.
the list of things you don't have to be or do is as long as you want to make it.
God has only two prerequisites.
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Paul and Peter preached the exact same gospel.
In order for you to convince yourself that Paul preached another gospel without repentance of sins, you have to change the meaning of repent of sins to just change your mind about God. The problem with that is that no one can change the meaning of repent of sins to change your mind about God. Paul says prove your repentance by your deeds. Another problem you have is that you have to prove that the Gentiles had to repent/change their mind about a God they never even heard of. See what Paul says to the Greeks: Acts 17:23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship--and this is what I am going to proclaim to you. Acts 17:30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent.
Your problems do not stop at those two, it goes on and on.
It is pathetic how you try to make Paul responsible for changing every word of God about repenting of sins to repent/change your mind about Him, even to people who never heard of Him.