Good afternoon egyptianmuslim,
You asked me:
Do you deny existing of a human/man before Adam?
Yes, I do. I know that God
may have created the angels before us... such as the ones we read about in scripture. God might have also created other beings of which I am not aware. After all, my Bible is a history of mankind as we know it. I believe that people as I know them all came from one ancestor and this was
male/female = Adam.
I do not believe that there are two groups of people on earth ... such as those human who descended from humans and those who are just evolved apes. Even though people some times do act like apes.
But the God of the Christians is a God who created humanity for a purpose and part of that purpose is to make us his family. Any Father likes it when his sons and daughters favor him. Our God created an image for himself and the chose to have his children favor him ... so, he shared his likeness with their ancestor. We know him as Adam (the first of created humanity).
However, I do believe that there were sons born unto male and female while they were in the Garden. These sons born unto male and female could be considered "sons of God." They were the "sons of God" from Genesis 6 that left the Garden and came unto daughters of Adam and Eve upon the earth (outside of the Garden)
Yet, even they (these sons of God) naturally had children that became men of renown upon the earth. IOW, they were men in the first place and their wives were human as well ... and their children were humans as well.
Pondering possibilities here ... without evidence:
I theorized that by the time Cain and Abel came along that it was unto these groups of people that Cain went to find a wive and to live among when he was sent away from his dad and mom.
Your strategy for studying is:
Ps, the differance between you and me is that you construct /originate your belief from the Bible but i originate my beliefs from free thinking
You are correct about me ... and yet I keep an open mind as I study, and sometimes I draw different conclusions from other people.
You wrote:
i believe that God is`nt comparable with human or any of His creature, I asked you many times Q about God you did`nt give answers do you know why because God is`nt comparable to anythings.
I thought I was very thorough. Which of your questions about God have I not answered?
Human is`nt like the car, we ar`nt in the Image of God, Jesus is`nt the express image of God Who does`nt live in one part/side of the universe but He contains the universe ,how, i dont know because i do`nt know the borders of the universe can you tell me the after of that borders?.
Whew, you covered a lot of territory in that paragraph. I agree that a human is not a car, but regarding the Image of God: We are created in the likeness and after the Image belonging to God. I believe this for two reasons:
1.) Scripture tells me so and I accept scripture as God's inspired truth.
2.) When I study scripture, the conclusions I find in it are compatible with what I see within this world; so, evidence from one seems to substantiate the other.
You wrote:
The greatest differance between Islam and Christianity is that you minimise God making Him like a man but Islam enlarges God till unknowledge of Him(above our thoughts)
. We are slaves of God working in His gardens/lands.
I don't say God is like a man ... I say God chose to created an image for himself and it was created just like he wanted it to look. The reason I know what God's created presence looks like is because God said that he did this: Genesis 1:26-17
"Let's make man in our IMAGE and after our likeness..."
So God created man in His Own Image,
in the image of God created He (God) him (the first human); male and female created He (God) them(male and female humans).
For me this is the truth. God was not made AFTER MAN'S IMAGE ... but just the opposite. God graciously shared HIS LIKENESS and IMAGE with humanity. God doesn't look like us ... but we favor His presence! God had his created image FIRST.
Colossians 1:15 tells us that
the Image of or belonging to God, was
the first born of all creatures!
You wrote:
Do you know what is the duty of the Muslim?
Ans
1- Correct believing in God (not minimising Him "like making Him as His creatures")
2- Doing right works(commandments of God)
3- Be merciful toward God`s creatures and fighting the corrupts(the people or any thing who corrupts the nature of the things)
Well, those things all sound very humble and many Christians would join in with the same goals. I believe in following God's guidelines for a life that pleases him ... I love animals. I believe that we should worship no other gods before the ONE true God. But I understand that my salvation is not "all about ME." I owe everything to My God, who planned the way for me to be rescued from my imperfections. In other words -
A WAY for me to be "saved" and made righteous so that I can dwell eternally in his perfected kingdom. The Savior is
THAT WAY. Our Lord Jesus the Savior was God coming to bring us
The TRUTH,
The WAY, and
the LIFE.
Only God fits the bill for being the ONE who can provide The honest TRUTH ... the miraculous WAY for our perfected righteousness ... and the extra measure of LIFE to take us into eternity. In the NT our Lord God the Son (aka Lord Jesus) said that HE was all three of these things ... and in the OT our LORD God said: I (God), even I am the LORD (The LORD God), beside ME there is no savior.
Our Lord Jesus is God appearing in flesh. And God made this possible by creating an image for himself before the world was ... and, as God the creator of everything, was able to manifest his image of the essence of flesh to become The WAY, The TRUTH, and The LIFE for us. This is so easy to understand and even nature supports this truth. Just look at what God did to created Adam and give him a visible body. If we see that God could do such a creative thing for Adam (humanity), then who is man to tell God that He could do this sort of thing for Himself - first?
To say that God allowed people to evolve from another creature such as apes ... is an insult to God's intelligence and mocks his ability to create wisely and with perfection in the first place. To call other human beings apes is an insult to God and His own image. BTW, if apes naturally evolve into human beings ... then why hasn't this process continued. Where are these apes that are in process now?
Now, even though, every once in awhile I'd like to insult someone and call them an ape ... yet, I do understand that this insult is not the truth.
You also asked:
Can you tell me what is the duty of the Christian?
A Christian owes all of their worship and honor unto the only ONE who can "save/rescue" them from this world of death and nature of imperfection/sin.
Only God, who created us can fix us. Only God can perform this miracle! Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD;
besides ME (God) there is no Savior.
So, you might ask: Why then do Christians praise and worship Jesus Christ? That's easy: Because
He is God come as the Savior ... come into the world to rescue his children!
We worship our Lord Jesus because he was the form of God that was manifested in mortal flesh... and it was through that flesh that God felt pain and suffering ... was subjected to humiliation and scorn from men ... and tasted death of the body. We owe all worship and honor unto our fleshly Lord, because the Father LORD wants us to acknowledge him as our hero for all the things he endured in order to bring the TRUTH, the WAY, and the LIFE unto us.
So, I had asked you a question, which I don't believe you have answered: Who is your Lord to you?
Because knowing the true identity of the LORD is key to knowing who you actually worship.
I've tried to explain who
"the LORD" is to me. God created
a living IMAGE for his personal use, then God used
IT. God
named IT - LORD (King James English) and the invisible ONE spiritual God manifested
His presence within his own creation first
as Father LORD ... (a super-natural form of his image - angelic by nature) ... and manifested
IT again within his own creation as
Son Lord ... (a natural form of his own image - flesh by nature)
The bodily image named LORD only represents the ONE God (aka - the LORD, the LORD God).
Our
Lord Jesus (God the Son) did not plan to stay and bring all processes to an end when he came as the savior.
He, being God, was not ready to end "children being born" unto him ... therefore, suffering and dying have continued unto this day... and it will continue until our Lord is ready to do away with, birthing, death, hell, sin, and the devil.
Our worship of "Our
Lord Jesus,
who is God as our promised Savior,"
a.) Gives glory to God the Father - who is our ONE God and ONE LORD who thought up his creation and this PLAN.
b.) Gives glory to God the Father... who had to watch
his own image manifested of flesh suffer and die for us
c.) Gives glory to God the Father ... who had to personally endure hardships and taste death through
his manifested fleshly image.
e.) Gives glory to God the Father because this is what he wants us to do. The ONE God glorified the Son ... so that the Son would glorify Him among men. God is not only our creator and judge, but is our friend and our hero... and is our future Lord and king and high priest forever forward.
He will come according to his will and will finally manifest all the things which he has already accomplished for us.
Whew! Let me know what is your question to which I haven't responded.
