Yep, I hope that he sees it someday soon.
What is the express image of God?
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Yep, I hope that he sees it someday soon.
keypurr
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God is a spirit. What would the express image of God be?
Hint, another god spirit, a created one for it is the IMAGE of God, not God. It had the fullness of the father. The worlds were created THROUGH this spirit. (Heb 1 and Col 1)
keypurr
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Then do not give up on me BR.
If you save me maybe some bells will ring in heaven for you.
I can't save you. Only Jesus can.
egyptianmuslim
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What do these verses tell?
John1:18
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Exodus 33:20-23
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And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
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And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
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And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
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And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
John 14 KJV
(7) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
(8) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
(9) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
(7) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
(8) Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
(9) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Amen!
keypurr
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It Christ was given deity by his God, he would still be under control of his God. Being made a god he could could take the form of man and die? Philippians 2 calls him a form of God.
Does your faith accept the entire New Testament as truth or history? I know you see Jesus as a prophet but I just wonder if you hold to what Paul writes.
You speak with wisdom friend. But the Holy Books is given to us to try to understand him. It seems that everyone sees him in a different way. Even in the Christian religion alone there are many differances. I think no one has all truth.
Peace EM, its a pleasure to post with you.
keypurr
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You can help him.
I can say things and it seems not very well that may influence your thoughts about Jesus. Only He can speak to you in such a way that you understand who He is.
keypurr
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Tam, if Christ is the exact image of God, the words still fit. God sent his son to give us some exposer to his person. He did not send himself. He tells you that his Father is the only God. God and Christ are both spirits. Jesus was the man who God gave the Christ spirit to.
keypurr
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You have influenced me a few time BR. Right now I am wondering why Jesus was call Christ at his birth. For the power was not given to him then, he had to grow in wisdom. Using human logic, why would God give that power to a baby? Christ is a god, he created the world, so I do not think he would make a baby the Christ then. But at age 30, thats when a Rabbi come into being. Makes me wonder if there was a translation problem or were the originals tampered with.
Never give up my friend.
Power was given him at his baptism through the Holy Spirit.
Do you deny that Christ is Truth, and the evil spirits are liars?
Do you deny that for man who relies upon his mind's ability to understand the creation and his own place in it, Truth is his shepherd and savior from error?
How can people ignore that our salvation depends upon accepting Truth and rejecting lies???
Where did that come from? :idunno:
Remember that Jesus had just said in John 14:6 that he was synonymous with the concept of Truth.
He was an Ideal, a personification of that concept Truth.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, (even though I have been saying, "I am the Truth"), Philip?...
... he that hath seen me, (the Truth), hath seen the (image of the) Father, (i.e.; the ever unfolding Reality that gives birth to the Truth in its wake);
and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father, (when you have seen His image in my personification of Truth)?
Not "persons" but three concepts.
TRINITY:
Our Lord is (1) Truth, in whose (2) Spirit of mind we must commit our lives, in order to face the (3) Father of all Nature, The Almighty, the evermore unfolding Reality, within which we all exist.
Persons, each has attributes of personality.
Isn't that what happens when we see the Truth in our mind's eye?
The real world and real events of that world are created by the Truth in side our head.
Nothing that is untrue exists, so all things real are cretaed by the Truth.
hmmm...
God is spirit, i.e.; like our thoughts, which are not persons, but immaterial ideas or concepts.
It is really a mater of seoarating the mind from the body, and distinguishing between these ideads that we call thinking from the material body we have learned is under the control of our mind.
If you were born again and could once more experience how you discovered that those wiggling toes were iunder your control and how your hands coukd be made to grasp things just by thinking about asking them to so do, then you coukd understand how a baby knows his body is a mere tool used by the mind.
The mind existed for weeks before recognizing that a body was availkable to it.
Spirit is mental.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit, (in thought), and in (the spirit of) truth.