ECT True or False question (Billy Graham)

[musterion]

1 John 2:3-4 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.​

Christ wasn't speaking to nor about you there.

Doesn't that just make you angry? Well, it shouldn't.

 

[musterion]

Salvation is not of YOURSELF. There is no "short time" indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Thus the "earnest" of the Spirit. The Spirit is God's SEAL upon those who are His.

2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.​

If you can disqualify yourself, that means you can save yourself.

He's in the workerbee hive, workin' hard for them pearly gates to open someday.

 

[God's Truth]

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For what?

You will eventually see.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You will eventually see.

Is that a THREAT? :rotfl:

 

[musterion]

Here is what Jesus said:

I want you to tell us what Paul said to Gentile believers about fruit and how it's produced. If you can't, admit you can't. But don't give me what I didn't ask for and pretend you did what I asked.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Is GT coming to my 'Place of Abode' and drop-kick me into OBLIVION? :rotfl:

 

[God's Truth]

Are you his Agent, now?

You are a worker for sure.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Go for it, GT.

 

[genuineoriginal]

The parable is that the word is the seed. Just because someone hears the word, doesn't mean they are saved. Just because one thinks it sounds good, but then they get distracted by the cares of the world, doesn't mean that person is saved. Jail house conversions are head knowledge....not salvation. I think your problem is thinking that people who claim to be saved are actually saved.

You have correctly identified the real problem with OSAS: OSAS teaches people to claim they are saved when they actually are not saved.
Paul does not equate the time of our belief with salvation the way OSAS does.

Romans 13:11 11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.​

 

[God's Truth]

Is that a THREAT? :rotfl:

You can't say you were not warned. Jesus warns us for a reason.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You are a worker for sure.

Should I take your THREAT above, seriously? :rotfl:

 

[musterion]

Salvation is not of YOURSELF. There is no "short time" indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Thus the "earnest" of the Spirit. The Spirit is God's SEAL upon those who are His.

2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.​

How'd you do yellow highlight?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Since GT is threatening me, perhaps, I'll have to dial 911? :rotfl:

 

[genuineoriginal]

Replacing your name for mine won't earn you any credibility, G.O. It just proves you're rather childish and lacking in WIT.

You should stick to challenging doctrine instead of being so childish and lacking in WIT as to resort to personal attacks because you can't handle the truth.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Delete.

 

[God's Truth]

You have correctly identified the real problem with OSAS: OSAS teaches people to claim they are saved when they actually are not saved.
Paul does not equate the time of our belief with salvation the way OSAS does.

Romans 13:11 11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.​

There is a time of our salvation.

 

[God's Truth]

Should I take your THREAT above, seriously? :rotfl:

It is not my threat, it is what God will do.

Don't you read the Bible? Don't you believe?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You should stick to challenging doctrine instead of being so childish and lacking in WIT as to resort to personal attacks because you can't handle the truth.

Wasn't that from a movie?

 

[genuineoriginal]

What church or denomination are you affiliated with? I'll bet you won't answer that question.

Acts 24:14-16 14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: 15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. 16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men.​

I bet your church or denomination does not follow Paul's belief as stated in these verses. :e4e:

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

It is not my threat, it is what God will do.

Don't you read the Bible? Don't you believe?

I kinda think ya don't know what you're talking about. You're talking out of your IGNORANCE, that's all.