ECT True or False question (Billy Graham)
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genuineoriginal
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Luke 6:43 43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. |
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. |
God's Truth
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I don't think they have ever had the Holy Spirit. Why? Because they go against obeying Jesus. They also tell people all the time that they are condemned. Telling people they are condemned is a sign that someone is condemned. No one who has the Lord will keep telling people they are condemned. It just doesn't happen. Who are those who tell people they are not saved and are condemned? That would be Right Divider, Glorydazed, Tambora, Musterion, John W., and Robert Pate.
genuineoriginal
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Foolish talk about how to "Rightly Divide" the Bible will only lead people further away from God.
2 Timothy 2:14-16 EXB A Worker Pleasing to God 14 ·Continue teaching [L Remind them of] these things, ·warning people [L solemnly testifying/declaring] in God’s presence not to ·argue [quarrel] about words. It ·does not help anyone [is good for nothing], and it ruins those who listen. 15 ·Make every effort [Do your best; Be diligent] to ·give [present] yourself to God as the kind of person he will approve. Be a worker who ·is not ashamed [or will not be shamed] and who ·uses the true teaching in the right way [correctly handles the true message/word of truth; or holds carefully to the true message/word of truth]. 16 Stay away from ·foolish, useless talk [godless/irreverent chatter; 1 Tim. 1:3–4; 4:7; 6:20], because that will lead people ·further away from God [into even more ungodliness]. |
genuineoriginal
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You have no idea that Jesus is speaking about three categories of people that go into damnation and one category of people that will receive eternal life?
genuineoriginal
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FTFY, and you are welcome.
glorydaz
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Neither of those verses address this issue. You're grasping at straws.
glorydaz
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The parable is that the word is the seed. Just because someone hears the word, doesn't mean they are saved. Just because one thinks it sounds good, but then they get distracted by the cares of the world, doesn't mean that person is saved. Jail house conversions are head knowledge....not salvation. I think your problem is thinking that people who claim to be saved are actually saved.
FTFY, and you are welcome.
Replacing your name for mine won't earn you any credibility, G.O. It just proves you're rather childish and lacking in WIT.
God's Truth
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There are people who are saved and will tell a loved one that they are doing wrong and that they are acting out of line with the truth. However, there are many people here who like to tell those who preach obedience to Christ they are not saved because they preach obedience to Christ.
These people who like to condemn others are not condemning us for doing drugs, getting drunk, stealing, cursing God, committing adultery...these people here are not condemning us for preaching infant baptism, calling brothers 'father', bowing to statues, believing in another testament, etc...these people here are condemning us for preaching obedience to Christ.
They have so condemned themselves.
These people who like to condemn others are not condemning us for doing drugs, getting drunk, stealing, cursing God, committing adultery...these people here are not condemning us for preaching infant baptism, calling brothers 'father', bowing to statues, believing in another testament, etc...these people here are condemning us for preaching obedience to Christ.
They have so condemned themselves.
genuineoriginal
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2 Peter 3:14-17 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. |
Peter warns against twisting Paul's words into a permission to be wicked.
The teaching of OSAS leads to destruction, not to salvation.
What church or denomination are you affiliated with? I'll bet you won't answer that question.
genuineoriginal
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Do you believe Paul is being truthful when he states this?
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. |
No! By not trusting in the finished work of Christ on the cross, you show your UNBELIEF. You lack, "True Faith."
Your opinions are born out of Ignorance.
God's Truth
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That is your famous irrelevant question and determination.
God's Truth
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You think your put downs are words from God but you will see.
The problem for you is that you can't come back and say you are sorry.
glorydaz
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Salvation is not of YOURSELF. There is no "short time" indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Thus the "earnest" of the Spirit. The Spirit is God's SEAL upon those who are His.
2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
Are you his Agent, now?