elohiym
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Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
toldailytopic: Imagine by John Lennon: love it or hate it?
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Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
"Just leave me the mode that would suitably imitate the tone and rhythm of a courageous person who is active in battle or doing other violent deeds, or who is failing and facing wounds, death, or some other misfortune, and who, in all these circumstances, is fighting off his fate steadily and with self control" (Plato's Republic, book III (399a-b)).
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SaulToPaul 2
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On the surface it sounds good, but at it's core it's anti-Christ.
Same with "We are the World".
When did God turn stones to bread? (Willie Nelson's part)
All I know is Jesus Christ refused to turn stones to bread.
Same with "We are the World".
When did God turn stones to bread? (Willie Nelson's part)
All I know is Jesus Christ refused to turn stones to bread.
SaulToPaul 2
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Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
Genesis 11:2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
Genesis 11:3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
Genesis 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
Genesis 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
Genesis 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Genesis 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
alwight
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It seems to me that you have rather taken JL's lyrics as a slight against your own particular "God". Lennon was far more concerned about all the various religious beliefs that abound and of how all the different and often conflicting beliefs that often seem to cause human conflict, which he includes nationality and culture.
I really don't think he was blaming yours or any particular god rather the belief in gods itself or perhaps more so, religious faith.
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I never particularly enjoyed this particular JL song that much and tend to agree with Knight about the "naive platitude" but surely lyrics often are. If I like the overall sound then that is more important to me and even as a non-believer I will more happily listen to "Jesus Is Just Alright" by the Doobie Brothers or The Byrds than "Imagine".
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While I liked much of the Beatles' music, this song is one that I don't care for at all. Reminds me of the usual Moonbeam theology of the New Agers, something that Lennon seemed quite taken by.
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To be fair, Imagine isn't a Beatles song.
A "Penny Lane" for your thoughts though. :tunes:
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As a working musician, I've been playing this song for over 16 years. It stays on my song list for a number of reasons, the main one being the tip jar (the main criteria for all songs on my list)
What I have seen mostly is that only religious people who insist on heaven and hell dislike this song. They seem to relate the absence of heaven and hell to an anti-God sentiment.
That doesn't bother me, they are a small minority, I still get $20 tips for this song, I love it.
What I have seen mostly is that only religious people who insist on heaven and hell dislike this song. They seem to relate the absence of heaven and hell to an anti-God sentiment.
That doesn't bother me, they are a small minority, I still get $20 tips for this song, I love it.
POTD :first:It's a nice song with really gay lyrics.
Thunder's Muse
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I'm not really a fan of this song or JL but I do agree with the sentiments.... and I certainly wouldn't call myself naive
some other dude
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The melody is very well written--but the lyrics were dredged from a sewage treatment plant. I can fertilize an entire field of flowers with that. I wouldn't put it on corn or beans--too toxic.
pqmomba8
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Eh, you're ALL wrong, of course. Frank Zappa is the musical genius of our time. (Much, much more than Lennon was, in my humble opinion.) FZ was incredibly talented, prolific and for those who enjoy jazz, there's no better source of progressive, avant garde jazz music.
So there!
So there!
Elo: you know for a fact that I want nothing short of this, and that I've often posted threads about the evils of war, violence and poverty. :noid:
That doesn't change the fact that the song is gay sissy garbage. :idunno:
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elohiym
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Proverbs 26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.