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That passage is specifically about a target audience. https://theologyonline.com/threads/another-gospel-in-galatians-1.52439/
These are NOT the same gospel
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So Paul could not have been talking about the Kingdom Gospel in Galatians, agree or no?
glorydaz
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We can quibble about what they taught with such blanket claims, but I'll stick to what I see written in Scripture.
Which is why I preach Paul's Gospel to the unsaved.
glorydaz
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And what type of faith would that be? In your opinion.
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Paul never preached the gospel of the kingdom to anyone (i.e., the kingdom at hand).
Paul's very mission was due to the kingdom postponed.
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glorydaz
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Which I find very odd.
Why this need to try and make the Gospel of Grace just a common thing, as if it's been in effect from the beginning of time?
Why this desire to mesh it in with the Gospel of the Kingdom here on earth?
Seems quite clear to me, and Paul does, too.
Galatians 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Right Divider
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One... the gospel of the kingdom was about Israel's kingdom (restored) being AT HAND.
glorydaz
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I'm wondering where Paul taught the restoration of the earthly kingdom of Israel. Certainly it wasn't his focus.
Paul taught about the Kingdom of God in heavenly places.
You make all these statements without any backup whatsoever.
Let's just assume you know there are works other than the works of the law.
Were they teaching repent and be baptized?
Maybe show where Peter says what one must do to be saved.
Were they preaching the same salvation? Really?
Could you address this, for instance.
Acts 3:19-21
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
glorydaz
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One heavenly kingdom, which will be the dwelling place of the church of God.
Col. 4:1 Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.
When Paul refers to his fellow workers, he is talking about other members of the church of God. There is a heavenly kingdom, and an earthly kingdom. Paul's destination would be the heavenly kingdom (where Christ will also rule and reign).
I stick to what I read in scripture also.
Which is why I know both taught both gospels.
Faithful trust in the God of gods, our Savior, and no other.
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Paul never taught the "kingdom at hand".
Paul was called because the kingdom was postponed and something else was being introduced. Something that God had kept hidden in Himself.
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There was no postponement for an earthly kingdom, it was not yet time for it.
We know Christ did not plan for the promised earthly kingdom to happen during His life in flesh or it would have happened.
Plus He flat out said His kingdom was not from this world.
We know His death was planned to happen during His life in flesh and it did happen because it was the time for it.
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glorydaz
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Both? I thought you said there was only one.
Do ya'll even read what I say????
I have differentiated the gospel for the earthly kingdom and the gospel for eternal life all through this thread.
I even color-coded them with two different colors in a post to differentiate them.
And I have said Peter and Paul preached both of them.
glorydaz
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Hindsight is the best, isn't it?
John 12:14-16 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written, Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. 16 These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.
He said a lot of things about His kingdom. Including it was "at hand".
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Why not? Peter told Israel (on that day of Pentecost) that if they would repent, Christ would return.
Nobody made that claim.
Don't try to go that route. That's what the "it's just a spiritual kingdom" people do and it's wrong.
Peter and the eleven were told to expect His soon return.
glorydaz
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What you haven't shown is both of them preaching both gospels.
That's what I'm waiting for.
