Can't be. Paul said there is one Spirit. (Ephesians 4:4)
That would be like saying God is Spirit and his image is Spirit.
So which one is Spirit?
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Can't be. Paul said there is one Spirit. (Ephesians 4:4)
That would be like saying God is Spirit and his image is Spirit.
So which one is Spirit?
Good point. That would be like claiming an attorney mediating between his client and the court could be a man.
He has indeed given you many things, but He has not yet given you eyes to see your error here, iffen you do believe in Him, which I for one, believe that you do. John 3:16 (KJV)
That excrement-like vomit is not scriptural. Neither does the Church teach or believe it.
keypurr
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I care not what the church teaches. They do not go deep into the word of God, that is why I left them.
I did not write the Bible, I only read it. God made his exact image and gave it power to create. Most church goers do not understand that. Nor do they wish to seethat. They do not want to understand that the Son of God is firstborn of all creatures (creation). They have made him God instead of the Son of God. Foolish men trying to hide the truth.
God created all through his spirit son, who is the highest of all creation. For this son laid the foundation of the Universe.
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OK, God is A spirit, his express image is A spirit and Paul says there is one spirit. So which one is the spirit?
So you reject that verse? You think it should be removed from the Bible because it doesn't fit your theology?
The Verse says "For there IS ... the man, Christ Jesus." For Trinitarians like myself, there is no issue here, as Jesus is fully God and fully man. He has a spirit form and a human form. God the Father only has a spirit form. The Holy Spirit only has a spirit form. For people like you who don't believe in the Trinity, this verse is not justifiable. There is no other interpretation of this verse. Jesus is the mediator between God and man, and he is a man, the man Christ Jesus.
When Jesus was being baptized, the Holy Spirit came down on Him like a dove. You keep misinterpreting this as Jesus being indwelled by Christ, yet nowhere in the Bible does it refer to Jesus and Christ as 2 different persons. Why do you?
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Son you better wipe the grime from your spectacles because you are blind here.
"I left the church because I don't like what it teaches" is all I can see in his posts.
It's because he left the church that He can't see straight in this issue.
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I think that Keypurr like many genuine Christians (Jn3:16KJV) found light shining forth from the Scripture and they dove in headfirst, and their minds were altered permanently. Their escape is from those who are not spiraled out of control to lend a hand to lift them up and out, to come to their senses. The Scripture is a power that we must handle with care, and the Church has those employed in wielding that power professionally, they are our bishops, and they oversee the Church, the Body of Christ.
People like Keypurr are Catholic at heart but not bodily, and the Church welcomes all those separated brothers and sisters as Christians. The Church does not heed their teaching unless it is Catholic.
keypurr
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Son? This 81 year old has no grime on his spectacles. He has years of prayerful study and the help of the comforter to guide him. I see much more than most on certain aspects of God's words.
God has a lot of hidden secrets woven into his word. For many years I was a Trin. But then I realized that only God is God. As Jesus told us his Father is the only true God. I pray that the world will see that.
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keypurr
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I do, thats why I left the church.
They do not teach the commandments of God for one thing.
They have created a false three piece God.
They teach only so much leaving a lot unaddressed.
They do not see Christ as a creature.
Many years I have been seeking truth friend, I do not see it in the churches. The world is my church, I live my faith and show it daily to the folks around me. I try to reflect the love God has blessed me with to all. That is what. Follower of Christ does.
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No He hasn't.
keypurr
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As the famous and humble John W would allude to, I also allude to it, being perhaps a spirit of a different type that you're thinking of. It's just an expression though, and does not mean that I think you are a drunk. I do think you're objectively mistaken in what you teach here though.
I think your mind has altered with age, not by the Holy Spirit.
Keypurr, How do you answer Euthyphro's Dilemma? How does any other monotheistic religion (That's one God (singular) or god, and not multiple gods or the Trinity) even begin to answer it?
Specifically, this iteration:
"It is generally agreed that whatever God wills is good and just. But there remains the question whether it is good and just because God wills it or whether God wills it because it is good and just; in other words, whether justice and goodness are arbitrary or whether they belong to the necessary and eternal truths about the nature of things."
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I know that, I'm exercising that right right now. You also have that right, and the Church teaches that the freedom of religion is a critical civil liberty, and for society to protect religious liberty at great-or-all cost. Do you find that in Scripture? The Church was then guerilla and now she can live openly, because of the human right to religious liberty.