The Trinity

The Trinity


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jamie

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No, just confused. By the time Hebrews was written the Son was God.

He isn't his father and he isn't the Most High, he's just one of us.

OK, Right Divider, how is referring to the Son of God as being God blasphemy?

Are you picking up where the Jews left off? (John 10:33)
 

jamie

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Heb 10:5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: "Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me;

Not just a body, keypurr, but a human body. Since the Garden humans are only made in utero.

The context here is sacrifices.

After the conception the Father had a biological son to sacrifice for humanity.

And he did.
 

Right Divider

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OK, Right Divider, how is referring to the Son of God as being God blasphemy?

Are you picking up where the Jews left off? (John 10:33)
You are saying what they were saying in John 10:33.

It seems that it is you that it picking up where they left off.
 

jamie

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You are saying what they were saying in John 10:33.

It seems that it is you that it picking up where they left off.

No, I believe Jesus was telling the truth.

So how is it blasphemy just because I believe he told the truth and you don't.
 

keypurr

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Not just a body, keypurr, but a human body. Since the Garden humans are only made in utero.

The context here is sacrifices.

After the conception the Father had a biological son to sacrifice for humanity.

And he did.

A human body was prepared for WHO?

Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

Who came into the world and needed a body?

It was the LOGOS or spirit son, the express image of the creator.


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keypurr

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No, we do not agree. The phrase "a god" denotes idolatry.

There is only one God, of whom Jesus is a member.

Did not Jesus say we were all gods?

What did he mean by that?

I believe only in one God, the Father, I also believe in his son, our Lord, made so by God.


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Yes, but he is a Creature, a creation , am image.
Only God is not a creation. That is the point I am trying to show you.


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Listen to these. Jesus was not created.


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Every Man is a creation. Jesus was a man.
And so is the spirit that was in him.

I do not care what the JW's think or say.


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Listen to it anyways, because they make the same argument that you do, saying that Christ was created. There is a rebuttal I want you to hear.

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jamie

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Only God is not a creation. That is the point I am trying to show you.

And I am asserting that the resurrected Jesus is God. Not the Most High and not the Father, just one of us.

Why do you need for the Creator to have been created?
 
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