The Politically Incorrect Truth About Martin Luther King Jr.

Crowns&Laurels

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Everybody has their vices. Martin Luther King Jr. may have done things he was not supposed to do, but that's simply being human.

As far as him meeting up with supremacists, he met with both sides of the spectrum. He was trying to see both sides so he could bring people together.

The man was shot dead for trying to bring that peace, and he did it via Christianity rather then racial propaganda. What I see on here is largely conspiracy and one sided contempt.
 

Spitfire

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The plagiarism issue is really the only one of these oft-circulated criticisms of King that is completely true.

A lot of what's ascribed to Abernathy's book in particular actually isn't in his book at all. There is some discussion of his sexcapades in the book, but it's pretty sober (and probably disappointing if you're looking for reasons to hate the guy) compared to what you usually hear.
 

Morpheus

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The plagiarism issue is really the only one of these oft-circulated criticisms of King that is completely true.

A lot of what's ascribed to Abernathy's book in particular actually isn't in his book at all. There is some discussion of his sexcapades in the book, but it's pretty sober (and probably disappointing if you're looking for reasons to hate the guy) compared to what you usually hear.

You actually read a book. What a novel notion. Most here think a reference is a Googled webpage about what someone said about another webpage referring to what somebody else heard from someone who saw a newscast about a description of a book on Amazon. Real "thinkers" on TOL don't have time to read books, or even visit a library. They are too busy dispensing "truth".
 

zoo22

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Why the Martin Luther King Jr. Holiday Should be Repealed

MLK Jr.'s life and the aftereffects

(65 pages of facts).
http://www.martinlutherking.org/articles/the_king_holiday.pdf

Is anyone surprised that aCW is feeding TOL "facts" about Martin Luther King directly from white supremacist websites?

"The Creativity Movement: Survival, Expansion, and Advancement of White Race."

Have a look. They use a book called "The White Man's Bible" as one of their "holy books."

These are the "16 commandments" from aCW's links:


1. It is the avowed duty and holy responsibility of each generation to assure and secure for all time the existence of the White Race upon the face of this planet.

2. Be fruitful and multiply. Do your part in helping to populate the world with your own kind. It is our sacred goal to populate the lands of this earth with White people exclusively.

3. Remember that the inferior colored races are our deadly enemies, and that the most dangerous of all is the Jewish race. It is our immediate objective to relentlessly expand the White Race, and keep shrinking our enemies.

4. The guiding principle of all your actions shall be:What is best for the White Race?

5. You shall keep your race pure. Pollution of the White Race is a heinous crime against Nature and against your own race.

6. Your first loyalty belongs to the White Race.

7. Show preferential treatment in business dealings with members of your own race. Phase out all dealings with Jews as soon as possible. Do not employ ******* or other coloreds. Have social contacts only with members of your own racial family.

8. Destroy and banish all Jewish thought and influence from society. Work hard to bring about a White world as soon as possible.

9. Work and Creativity are our genius. We regard work as a noble pursuit and our willingness to work as a blessing to our race.

10. Decide in early youth that during your lifetime you will make at least one major lasting contribution to the White Race.

11. Uphold the honor of your race at all time.

12. It is our duty and our privilege to further Nature’s plan by striving towards the advancement and improvement of our future generations.

13. You shall honor, protect and venerate the sanctity of the family unit, and hold it sacred. It is the present link in the long golden chain of our White Race.

14. Throughout your life you shall faithfully uphold our pivotal creed of Blood, Soil and Honor. Practice it diligently, for it is the heart of our faith.

15. As a proud member of the White Race, think and act positively, be courageous, confident and aggressive. Utilize constructively your creative ability.

16. We, the Racial Comrades of the White Race, are determined to regain complete and unconditional control of our own destiny.



aCW is a sick one. One of TOL's more twisted lifetime members.
 

Morpheus

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Is anyone surprised that aCW is feeding TOL "facts" about Martin Luther King directly from white supremacist websites?

"The Creativity Movement: Survival, Expansion, and Advancement of White Race."

Have a look. They use a book called "The White Man's Bible" as one of their "holy books."

These are the "16 commandments" from aCW's links:


1. It is the avowed duty and holy responsibility of each generation to assure and secure for all time the existence of the White Race upon the face of this planet.

2. Be fruitful and multiply. Do your part in helping to populate the world with your own kind. It is our sacred goal to populate the lands of this earth with White people exclusively.

3. Remember that the inferior colored races are our deadly enemies, and that the most dangerous of all is the Jewish race. It is our immediate objective to relentlessly expand the White Race, and keep shrinking our enemies.

4. The guiding principle of all your actions shall be:What is best for the White Race?

5. You shall keep your race pure. Pollution of the White Race is a heinous crime against Nature and against your own race.

6. Your first loyalty belongs to the White Race.

7. Show preferential treatment in business dealings with members of your own race. Phase out all dealings with Jews as soon as possible. Do not employ ******* or other coloreds. Have social contacts only with members of your own racial family.

8. Destroy and banish all Jewish thought and influence from society. Work hard to bring about a White world as soon as possible.

9. Work and Creativity are our genius. We regard work as a noble pursuit and our willingness to work as a blessing to our race.

10. Decide in early youth that during your lifetime you will make at least one major lasting contribution to the White Race.

11. Uphold the honor of your race at all time.

12. It is our duty and our privilege to further Nature’s plan by striving towards the advancement and improvement of our future generations.

13. You shall honor, protect and venerate the sanctity of the family unit, and hold it sacred. It is the present link in the long golden chain of our White Race.

14. Throughout your life you shall faithfully uphold our pivotal creed of Blood, Soil and Honor. Practice it diligently, for it is the heart of our faith.

15. As a proud member of the White Race, think and act positively, be courageous, confident and aggressive. Utilize constructively your creative ability.

16. We, the Racial Comrades of the White Race, are determined to regain complete and unconditional control of our own destiny.



aCW is a sick one.
I thought that I'd add a link to the homepage of the group taken directly from the title page of the document aCw used, and that you referred to, from post #5.

http://creativitymovement.net

No wonder he keeps refusing to answer about his affiliation with White supremacist organizations and/or hate groups. Looks like he's on their mailing lists.
 

Morpheus

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I thought that I'd add a link to the homepage of the group taken directly from the title page of the document aCw used, and that you referred to, from post #5.

http://creativitymovement.net

No wonder he keeps refusing to answer about his affiliation with White supremacist organizations and/or hate groups. Looks like he's on their mailing lists.
About the Creativity Movement's leader from their website. Not just White supremacist, but full-blown Nazis, including extermination of as all non-whites including Jews.

Matthew F. Hale (born July 27, 1971), more commonly known as Matt Hale, was the third Pontifex Maximus and the founder of the group formerly known as the World Church of the Creator and now known as The Creativity Movement.

Hale was raised in East Peoria, Illinois, a city on the Illinois River. By the age of 12, he was reading books about National Socialism such as Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf, and had formed a group at school.

In August 1989, Hale entered Bradley University, studying political science. In September 1989, Hale began writing editorials in the college newspaper, the Bradley Scout, espousing his views of White Separatism. A student at Bradley, Robert Bingham, also a political science major, began a debate in the college newspaper editorial about civil rights and the Ku Klux Klan. Upon coming out to give his surname, Matt Hale invited the Ku Klux Klan to the campus of Bradley in the spring of 1990; the same year, he was expelled from Bradley. At the age of 19, Hale burned an Israeli flag at a demonstration and was found guilty of violating an East Peoria ordinance against open burning. The next year, he passed out racist pamphlets to patrons at a shopping mall and was fined for littering. In May 1991, Hale and his brother allegedly threatened three African-Americans with a gun, and he was arrested for mob action. Since he refused to tell police where his brother was, Hale was also charged with felony obstruction of justice; he was convicted of obstruction, but won a reversal on appeal. In 1992, Hale attacked a security guard at a mall and was charged with criminal trespass, resisting arrest, aggravated battery and carrying a concealed weapon. For this attack, Hale was sentenced to 30 months probation and six months house arrest.

In 1993, Hale graduated from Bradley University and received a degree in political science. In 1996, Hale founded the New Church of the Creator, a revival of Ben Klassen's religious group, that believes that the white race are the creators of all worthwhile civilization. The church believes that a "racial holy war" is necessary to attain a "white world" without Jews and non-whites and to this end it encourages its members to "populate the lands of this earth with white people exclusively".

After Hale was appointed "Pontifex Maximus", he changed the name of the organization to the World Church of the Creator. The name was again changed to the Creativity Movement when a religious group in Oregon (the Church of the Creator) sued Hale's group for trademark infringement.

Hale graduated from Southern Illinois University School of Law in May 1998 and passed the bar in July of that same year. On December 16, 1998, the Illinois Bar Committee on Character and Fitness rejected Hale's application for a license to practice law. Hale appealed, and a hearing was held on April 10, 1999. On June 30, 1999, a Hearing Panel of the Committee refused to certify that Hale had the requisite moral character and fitness to practice law in Illinois. Two days after Hale was denied a license to practice law, a World Church of the Creator member and college student, Benjamin Smith, resigned from The Church and went on a three-day shooting spree in which he randomly targeted members of racial and ethnic minority groups in Illinois and Indiana. Beginning on July 2, 1999, Smith shot nine Orthodox Jews walking to and from their synagogues in Chicago's West Rogers Park neighborhood, killed two people, including former Northwestern University basketball coach Ricky Byrdsong, in Evanston, Illinois, and a 26-year-old Korean graduate student,d Won-Joon Yoon, who was shot as he was on his way to church in Bloomington, Indiana. Smith wounded nine others before committing suicide on July 4. Mark Potok, director of intelligence for the Southern Poverty Law Center, believes that Smith may have acted in retaliation after Hale's application to practice law was rejected.

After Smith's shooting spree, Hale appeared on television and in newspapers saying, "We do urge hatred. If you love something, you must be willing to hate that which threatens it." He also referred to non-whites as "mud races." According to Hale, America should only be occupied by whites.During a television interview that summer, Hale stated that his church didn't condone violent or illegal activities.

In late 2002, Hale filed a class action lawsuit against Judge Joan Lefkow, the United States district court judge presiding over his trademark case. Again in late 2002 and prior to his arrest, Hale denounced Lefkow in a news conference, claiming that she was biased against him because she was married to a Jewish man and had grandchildren who were biracial.

On January 8, 2003, Hale was arrested, charged with soliciting an undercover FBI informant to kill Lefkow.

On February 28, 2005, Lefkow's mother and husband were murdered at her home on Chicago's North Side. Chicago Police revealed on March 10 that Bart Ross, a plaintiff in a medical malpractice case that Lefkow had dismissed, admitted to the murders in a suicide note written before shooting himself during a routine traffic stop in Wisconsin the previous evening. The murders and suicide had no connection to Hale or Creativity.

On April 6, 2005, Hale was sentenced to a 40-year prison term in Supermax State Prison for his conviction for attempting to solicit the murder of Lefkow.

Hale's projected release date is December 6, 2037. He will be 66 years old upon his release.

http://creativitymovement.net/Matt Hale.html

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kmoney

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The time of year when white conservatives can get upset about a black guy getting some honor and attention. :devil:

:mock: acw

And just think, Black History month is coming up too!
 

Arthur Brain

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Is anyone surprised that aCW is feeding TOL "facts" about Martin Luther King directly from white supremacist websites?

"The Creativity Movement: Survival, Expansion, and Advancement of White Race."

Have a look. They use a book called "The White Man's Bible" as one of their "holy books."

These are the "16 commandments" from aCW's links:


1. It is the avowed duty and holy responsibility of each generation to assure and secure for all time the existence of the White Race upon the face of this planet.

2. Be fruitful and multiply. Do your part in helping to populate the world with your own kind. It is our sacred goal to populate the lands of this earth with White people exclusively.

3. Remember that the inferior colored races are our deadly enemies, and that the most dangerous of all is the Jewish race. It is our immediate objective to relentlessly expand the White Race, and keep shrinking our enemies.

4. The guiding principle of all your actions shall be:What is best for the White Race?

5. You shall keep your race pure. Pollution of the White Race is a heinous crime against Nature and against your own race.

6. Your first loyalty belongs to the White Race.

7. Show preferential treatment in business dealings with members of your own race. Phase out all dealings with Jews as soon as possible. Do not employ ******* or other coloreds. Have social contacts only with members of your own racial family.

8. Destroy and banish all Jewish thought and influence from society. Work hard to bring about a White world as soon as possible.

9. Work and Creativity are our genius. We regard work as a noble pursuit and our willingness to work as a blessing to our race.

10. Decide in early youth that during your lifetime you will make at least one major lasting contribution to the White Race.

11. Uphold the honor of your race at all time.

12. It is our duty and our privilege to further Nature’s plan by striving towards the advancement and improvement of our future generations.

13. You shall honor, protect and venerate the sanctity of the family unit, and hold it sacred. It is the present link in the long golden chain of our White Race.

14. Throughout your life you shall faithfully uphold our pivotal creed of Blood, Soil and Honor. Practice it diligently, for it is the heart of our faith.

15. As a proud member of the White Race, think and act positively, be courageous, confident and aggressive. Utilize constructively your creative ability.

16. We, the Racial Comrades of the White Race, are determined to regain complete and unconditional control of our own destiny.



aCW is a sick one. One of TOL's more twisted lifetime members.

Well, either aCW is a white supremacist or at least sympathetic to the 'cause' - or he's a gormless crank who doesn't check his sources...

Well, possibly a mixture of all as you'd have to be somewhat lacking in the brain department to be affiliated with the former and just as dumb not to vet the latter...
 

aCultureWarrior

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Here is another article from the Alan Stang website you referred to here.

I've used many sources throughout the thread (your beloved Planned Parenthood being one of them) showing the truth about your "Saint". Alang Stang's article shows how perverted and corrupt Martin Luther the King was; other sources backed Stang's article as well.

Anytime you're ready to address the truth, feel free to do so.

So you refuse to answer whether you are affiliated with any group that is considered by anyone to be a White supremacist organization or hate group. Again, an honest answer would be appreciated.

Normally I don't waste my time with such things, but for you I will.

The leader of the organization that I belong is known for saying things like "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.'"
He created mankind, and is color blind when it comes to the color of peoples skin. HOWEVER, He warns against things that your so-called Christian Reverend didn't take too serious:

"Thou shalt not commit adultery", "thou shalt not steal [out of the church funds to pay for hookers], and "thou shalt not murder (58 million unborn babies) are just three of them.

Now that you've learned about my group and it's leader, tell us about yours (the communist founded NAACP and ACLU) and some of it's race baiting leaders like B. Hussein Obama, Jesse "Who shall I shake down this week?" Jackson and Al "not too" Sharp-ton.
 

aCultureWarrior

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The time of year when white conservatives can get upset about a black guy getting some honor and attention. :devil:

:mock: acw

And just think, Black History month is coming up too!

In past years I've attend pro life rallies in the State Capitol of Olympia. It's usually held the day after ML King Jr. Day. We pray for the 58 million unborn babies that ML King Jr. and his buddies at "Klanned Parenthood" (because lynching is for amateurs) are responsible for being murdered.
http://www.klannedparenthood.com/

Just think of the good King could have done if he'd only believed in God's Word.
 

Arthur Brain

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I've used many sources throughout the thread (your beloved Planned Parenthood being one of them) showing the truth about your "Saint". Alang Stang's article shows how perverted and corrupt Martin Luther the King was; other sources backed Stang's article as well.

Anytime you're ready to address the truth, feel free to do so.



Normally I don't waste my time with such things, but for you I will.

The leader of the organization that I belong is known for saying things like "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.'"
He created mankind, and is color blind when it comes to the color of peoples skin. HOWEVER, He warns against things that your so-called Christian Reverend didn't take too serious:

"Thou shalt not commit adultery" and "thou shalt not steal [out of the church funds to pay for hookers] are two of them.

Now that you've learned about my group and it's leader, tell us about yours (the communist founded NAACP and ACLU) and some of it's race baiting leaders like B. Hussein Obama, Jesse "Who shall I shake down this week?" Jackson and Al "not too" Sharp-ton.

Why are you using a blatant and self advertising white supremacist source and passing its spiel off as fact?

:think:
 

Morpheus

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I've used many sources throughout the thread (your beloved Planned Parenthood being one of them) showing the truth about your "Saint". Alang Stang's article shows how perverted and corrupt Martin Luther the King was; other sources backed Stang's article as well.

Anytime you're ready to address the truth, feel free to do so.



Normally I don't waste my time with such things, but for you I will.

The leader of the organization that I belong is known for saying things like "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.'"
He created mankind, and is color blind when it comes to the color of peoples skin. HOWEVER, He warns against things that your so-called Christian Reverend didn't take too serious:

"Thou shalt not commit adultery" and "thou shalt not steal [out of the church funds to pay for hookers] are two of them.

Now that you've learned about my group and it's leader, tell us about yours (the communist founded NAACP and ACLU) and some of it's race baiting leaders like B. Hussein Obama, Jesse "Who shall I shake down this week?" Jackson and Al "not too" Sharp-ton.
Well, none of those organizations are mine. See how easy that is? Yet with all your bluster and prevarications you still failed to answer the question posed to you. So again, a direct question. Are you affiliated with any group that is considered a White supremacist organization or hate group by anyone [if so which one(s)], or are you just a lone wolf racist? An honest answer would be appreciated.
 

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Is anyone surprised that aCW is feeding TOL "facts" about Martin Luther King directly from white supremacist websites?
No. I'm mostly surprised when they aren't. :plain:


when they close the gubmint for a day off for jeff, i'll speak out
Sure you will. :rolleyes: And Jeff is it? Not that slave holding rapist of a hypocrite? I mean, given all that's holding your full moral outrage back is your inconvenience. As in:

meanwhile, we're talking about the [slain civil rights leader] whose "holiday" will keep me from logging on on monday :sozo2:
Make up your mind already, are you trying to get us to rally against the holiday or not?


Why are you using a blatant and self advertising white supremacist source and passing its spiel off as fact?

:think:
Because like most people with a blinding bias he only searches and reads what affirms the conclusion he starts with?
 

Morpheus

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For the Christians here...doesn't it make you cringe when someone who drips with hate claims to be of Christ? God, who is love, can not be represented by hatred. Those who are the very image of hatred must therefore draw their inspiration from another source.
 

aCultureWarrior

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Well, none of those organizations are mine. See how easy that is?

Yet you defend someone who amongst other things was an unrepentant adulterer, a thief, the first co-recipient of the "Baby Murderers R Us' Margaret Sanger Planned Parenthood Award.

Did you also know that King, because of his close ties with communists during the Vietnam war, is indirectly responsible for the death of 10's of thousands of American GI's?

I wonder if Hanoi Jane Fonda gave a eulogy at his funeral? Could you look into that for me Morphie?

fondapic.jpg


Back later with more from the 65 page article exposing the real Martin Luther King Jr.
 

patrick jane

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Yet you defend someone who amongst other things was an unrepentant adulterer, a thief, the first co-recipient of the "Baby Murderers R Us' Margaret Sanger Planned Parenthood Award.

Did you also know that King, because of his close ties with communists during the Vietnam war, is indirectly responsible for the death of 10's of thousands of American GI's?

I wonder if Hanoi Jane Fonda gave a eulogy at his funeral? Could you look into that for me Morphie?

fondapic.jpg


Back later with more from the 65 page article exposing the real Martin Luther King Jr.






THANKS FOR THE WARNING ! ! ! - :vomit:
 

Morpheus

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Yet you defend someone who amongst other things was an unrepentant adulterer, a thief, the first co-recipient of the "Baby Murderers R Us' Margaret Sanger Planned Parenthood Award.

Did you also know that King, because of his close ties with communists during the Vietnam war, is indirectly responsible for the death of 10's of thousands of American GI's?

I wonder if Hanoi Jane Fonda gave a eulogy at his funeral? Could you look into that for me Morphie?

fondapic.jpg


Back later with more from the 65 page article exposing the real Martin Luther King Jr.

Still refuse to answer. Your continued unwillingness to answer a simple, direct question only confirms what everyone already knew about you. Especially since all of your sources are White supremacist sites. By using them you have proven nothing except your lack of character. You repeatedly try to convict through assertions of guilt by (very tenuous) association where others sought out associating themselves with him. Yet you continually seek out associating yourself with White supremacist, Nazi, hate groups. Maybe you should start a thread convicting yourself. You have already supplied all the proof you need.
 
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