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The New Rep System Is A Joke
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Arthur Brain
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Oh c'mon. You and I both know fine well that folk do not get 100 people repping them 10 times a day reset or no reset.
Nobody said you couldn't.
The women's club as well as restricted ones on the public forum still conform to regular rep constraints, SOOTS doesn't so let me ask you a question. Has all your received and given rep been on the regular forum?
Look, it's not as though it's a secret that certain rep scores were exponentially increasing at a much faster rate well before this latest reset. It's just that much more apparent after the latest initial reset.
This isn't the first time we've had a reset. I caused one of them.
Or, because if it had happened to one person it would have been remarkable enough, but it wasn't just happening to one or two people, but to a large and exclusive group of them and happening when it wasn't happening to anyone else. That's why when the opening objections came in there wasn't a Glory to point to. She came on the heels of the complaints.
My best bet is that no one in soots would like to see her rep page put on public display or set out as a chronological record. Not blaming her at all, mind you, only stating that if someone who could do that did it I know what we'd see.
But forget that. Here is the narrative that illustrates the problem easily enough:
Two posters, call them A and B
Both arrive about the same time. Both develop a number of friendships and general good will. A is more conservative and gravitates to soots.
The reset happens.
Inside a day B sees his rep received averages increase a good bit as people respond to the reset. Now B's old averages had managed, over time, to put him in the position to hit the rep ceiling and cause an earlier rep reset, only to move again to the ceiling and remain ahead of most until this one.
And, again, his averages and his participation are both up in the day or so following the reset.
A doubles his rep anyway, without a post, without being present.
How?
Only two possible answers. Either a large group of people are moving through and repping her old posts or a small number with rep power they aren't capable of having without an undisclosed advantage are doing it.
Either way, people are gaming the system.
Because neither of those was happening to A before the reset and none of what began to happen was happening outside of soots like it was inside of soots.
Couple that with an observation of similar rising totals across a limited number of people with a rather singular unifying trait and you have a statistical happening that isn't happening by accident.
This isn't guesswork. And I can repeat the example (because bizarre statistical odd men out happen) with a few others, did so at the time and settled on one of them as the example only because I knew if she figured out that I was talking about her it wouldn't upset her.
And I looked for the exceptions, the break. I looked across every friend I had who was active, including and I didn't find them, let alone an offset that would look like what I saw with my active soots friends. I was doing better than about anyone outside of soots in that day, which given my position at the time of the reset makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is how present, active soots members found themselves so dramatically outside of any reasonable predictor.
At least someone in soots knows what I'm saying is true. Likely more. In any event I've told the truth and set it out.That's all I mean to do to begin with.
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She gets my reps all the time and yes, that would be a lot and as it goes, she gets way over 100 a day, but only in the past several days. Otherwise she still had more reps given than almost anyone here.
100 x 10=1000
That would be an average of those who rep her. Take me, I have about 10,000 so do the stats, you see, what I mean? Y'all know rep snowballs?:surf:
And what about Kat? ............................... alright?
Arthur Brain
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Maybe it's like the theory of evolution....lots of surmising and guess work. Apes sorta do act like us. Just saying.
I'm off to the hospital. Everybody rep me so I'll find a big surprise when I return. Love you all....
You and your mother will be in my prayers. May God give the doctors skill to provide the best treatment possible.
TH,
The ratio is only relevant to the amount of reps.
Now in a group like the women's club, sure there is more concentration, so, there is going to be closer bonding and more rep exchanges, but there is no way to make the rep higher than by acculturated point ratio. That is about all there is to it.
You will end up passing me and then you might believe me?
The ratio is only relevant to the amount of reps.
Now in a group like the women's club, sure there is more concentration, so, there is going to be closer bonding and more rep exchanges, but there is no way to make the rep higher than by acculturated point ratio. That is about all there is to it.
You will end up passing me and then you might believe me?
My money is on George Bush.
He certainly seems to be the blame for everything else why not this...has worked for Obama for almost 8 years now :chuckle:
PureX
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This is pretty much what I assumed was going on. And to be honest, I really don't much care. I do think it's pretty tawdry, especially on a popular Christian discussion/debate site. But, … whatever. It's not the end of the world.
I still don't really understand what "soots" is, but I gather it's some sort of algorithmic advantage.
Again. It's all OK with me. I don't pay any attention to rep points and all that. I just appreciate when someone reps me to say they appreciated something I posted. And I like being able to do that for others, too. And I suspect the same is true for most of the folks who post here, and probably even including Knight, himself.
It's really not something that warrants much fuss. I'm just happy to have all you folks to discuss/debate, and even argue with on occasion. And if I could rep you all for that right now, collectively, I would.
Consider yourself rebutted...:chuckle:
Arthur Brain
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Hey, she may well get over a 100 reps per day and especially since the reset, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that she or anyone else is getting a 100 different people repping them ten times a day. That requires more than just a suspension of disbelief.
Look, TOL is upfront about its bias and I actually respect that. It's not like it hides that bias under a bushel anywhere else than where it comes to rep. There's a private club here whereby members have significantly enhanced rep potential so members there are obviously going to use that. What would be the point of having it otherwise? It's one of the perks of being in SOOTS so of course those privy are going to take advantage. I've been here long enough to see the rep system gamed from years back and was in part of a group gaming it ourselves albeit through regular means. I've seen it all before through the years.
I'd just sooner people were honest about it and acknowledge that the rep system is heavily advantageously weighted for a select number of people instead of this reset being 'representative' of all.
Jeb?? No he's a lowly state official. It would take the mastery of former President George Bush to conspire to make the TOL rep system unfair.
It's a conspiracy I tell ya! :chuckle:
FYI.... I did find an issue that may have effected the rep system.
There was a rep multiplier attached to the Topic of the Day forum. I think we implemented that as a way to get people to participate in the Topic of the Day 5 or so years ago. I had completely forgotten about it.
Therefore if a person was repped for a post in that forum their rep points were multiplied by a small factor.
I have deleted that multiplier because I don't think it's important anymore.
There was a rep multiplier attached to the Topic of the Day forum. I think we implemented that as a way to get people to participate in the Topic of the Day 5 or so years ago. I had completely forgotten about it.
Therefore if a person was repped for a post in that forum their rep points were multiplied by a small factor.
I have deleted that multiplier because I don't think it's important anymore.
PureX
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