The Most Dangerous Teaching

[1Mind1Spirit]

You have not repented.
You still want to EARN your salvation by your own righteousness and obedience.

We trust scripture over the word of the pit dwellers.


Romans 5:18-19 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
(19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The pit, shivers.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

That was nice of you, thank you.

 

[God's Truth]

The moment a person accepts Christ he is saved. This is immediate. And forever!

Jesus has to accept the person.

Acts 10:35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

Acts 15:8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

Jesus has to accept the person.

Acts 10:35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

Acts 15:8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.

King James Version
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

 

[God's Truth]

King James Version
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

So are you agreeing with me, or trying to nullify scripture with scripture? I don't want to presume.

 

[drbrumley]

Jesus says why do you call me Lord and don't do what I say?

because they didn't believe Him to begin with....sheesh....

why do kids disobey....for the same reason....belief....thinking they can do better...pretty simple.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

So are you agreeing with me, or trying to nullify scripture with scripture?

Call it a friendly warning. :e4e:

 

[drbrumley]

Jesus has to accept the person.

Wow.....ok. He already has accepted everyone.....the condition of salvation is not Jesus being accepting, but who accepts jesus...you're all over the map.

 

[God's Truth]

Call it a friendly warning. :e4e:

lol

I preach obedience to Christ and make sure I don't get disqualified as I preach the truth to others.

 

[God's Truth]

Wow.....ok. He already has accepted everyone.....the condition of salvation is not Jesus being accepting, but who accepts jesus...you're all over the map.

Don't you care what God says?

Acts 10:35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.


Did you read that? God accepts those who fear him and does what is right.

 

[drbrumley]

Don't you care what God says?

Acts 10:35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.


Did you read that? God accepts those who fear him and does what is right.

I do, do you? ever read John 3:16?

 

[God's Truth]

because they didn't believe Him to begin with....sheesh....

why do kids disobey....for the same reason....belief....thinking they can do better...pretty simple.

Kids have to be taught that love is obedience.

Is it love if your kids do drugs and don't help you around the house?

Is it love if they yell at you at curse you?

They have to be told and taught that love is obeying.

 

[God's Truth]

because they didn't believe Him to begin with....sheesh....

You added they didn't believe him.

 

[God's Truth]

I do, do you? ever read John 3:16?

Do you really think that you can nullify scripture with scripture?

Address the scriptures that I give and comment on them, and don't just post another scripture that you thinks nullifies the scripture that proves Jesus has to accepts us too.

As for John 3:16, God loving the world is about God loving His creation and wanting to save those who believe in His Son. Now 'believe' in His Son is about believing and obeying what His Son says. He is the Word of God and spoke God's words. Jesus said more than just believe, and he didn't ever say believe and don't obey to be saved.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

lol

I preach obedience to Christ and make sure I don't get disqualified as I preach the truth to others.

Gotta get a message.....

 

[drbrumley]

Kids have to be taught that love is obedience.

Is it love if your kids do drugs and don't help you around the house?

Is it love if they yell at you at curse you?

They have to be told and taught that love is obeying.

Sigh, I'm thinking you argue just to argue.

 

[drbrumley]

You added they didn't believe him.

Stay in the milk child...

 

[God's Truth]

Sigh, I'm thinking you argue just to argue.

You think wrong.
But you did say that just to be a rude false judge.

 

[God's Truth]

Stay in the milk child...

Are you kidding?

Do you know what that scripture says?

It says repentance of works that lead to death is the FOUNDATION.

That means you have to repent of your sins or you are not even in to build on it.


Hebrews 6:1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God,

 

[drbrumley]

You get to obey. That's a joy. God doesn't force one to obey. But God will take you to the woodshed for the disobedience. Which is not a salvation issue.