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Jesus: Believe in me.
Nang: I cannot believe in you, save me first.
Jesus: Obey me.
Nang: I cannot believe and obey you until you save me first.
What is pathetic is Nang does not see anything wrong in that scenario.
ECT The Grace of God. Is it merited or unmerited?
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Jesus: Believe in me.
Nang: I cannot believe in you, save me first.
Jesus: Obey me.
Nang: I cannot believe and obey you until you save me first.
What is pathetic is Nang does not see anything wrong in that scenario.
God's Truth
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Obedience unto righteousness. See Romans 6:16.
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Living people are not copses. That is more mantras from idiot teachers you follow.
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If you do not obey Jesus you will not enter.
JonahofAkron
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That is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. You do nothing for people you love without expecting something in return? Something must be wrong with you. I have no trouble dissociation myself from the idea that I'm owed anything. I am owed nothing. I hope you don't treat your spouse, significant other, whatever, or family like that. Not cool.
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Nang
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Totton was (sarcastically) repeating the argument for works that God's Truth tries to push on the faithful all the time.
God's Truth deserves your rebuke . . .
The fleshly mind does not understand or even like God's word...the flesh is at enmity with God
All God desires from us is thanksgiving
Nang
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You will never ENTER the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, unless you humble yourself.
Matthew 18:3 And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
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Only those who ONLY have their mind on pleasing the flesh cannot please God! You are mixed up and confused. IMHO.
Give the scripture reference or concede.
Nang
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Guess what . . not a single sinner can change himself. Only God can change the sinner through the power of His Holy Spirit. Only God can raise spiritually dead souls to new life. Only God can produce belief, repentance, and obedience in Christ Jesus.
He is the (only) Way, Truth, and Life that enables His children to share in the inheritance of the Heavenly Kingdom.
JonahofAkron
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Anyone can do what Jesus says.
You will not receive the Holy Spirit unless you humble yourself.
Nowhere anywhere do the scriptures say that.
Jesus says unless you change and become as a little child you will never enter.
YOU say that Jesus says we have to become as little children or we do not enter but he will surprise us by saving us first then making us humble because we cannot be like little children on our own.
Now that is some confused nonsense, and you make Jesus someone with a secret way that took until Calvin to figure it out.
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JonahofAkron
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JonahofAkron
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So, you're serious about this? I thought you were being facetious. If looks not that way.
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