Do you know that Post #149 has a passage that speaks of someone just like you ?
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would you mind quoting it and showing where?
Do you know that Post #149 has a passage that speaks of someone just like you ?
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Truth!
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Thank God for your fellowship in the Truth !
The verse clearly teaches that even the most rampant evil is under the control of the Lord, and will in the end be overruled for his praise.
Rev 4:11
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
By this we know and understand that God in His Purpose is the First Cause of sin, for He is the First cause of Lucifer and Adam, both of them being Created for His Pleasure ! That word pleasure is the greek word thelēma:
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what one wishes or has determined shall be done
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of the purpose of God to bless mankind through Christ
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of what God wishes to be done by us
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commands, precepts
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will, choice, inclination, desire, pleasure
The Angels, and Man, the Earth / World even were Created for an Eternal Purpose in Christ Jesus Eph 3:9-11, a Purpose whereby God would bless Man through Jesus Christ, this was an Redemptive Purpose or an Soteriological Purpose, meaning it entailed Salvation and or Redemption from sin for the Glorifying of God's Mercy/ Grace and Justice !
It involved the Pleasure of the Lord spoken of here Isa 53:10
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
Yes, this pleasure of the Lord is the same as the pleasure of the Lord in Rev 4:11 !
Isa 53:10 is speaking of Christ, and this World was Created for Him to carry out and execute the Purpose and pleasure of God !
The word pleasure in Isa 53:10 also means Purpose, of which it is translated so here Ecc 3:1,17
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work
The wicked and the Righteous were Created for the Purpose of God in Judgment ! Prov 16:4
4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
The day of evil here can also refer to the day of Judgment and wrath for the wicked at the Judgment ! The day of their calamity !
Both Rev 4:11 and Isa 53:10 are speaking within the context and relation of Redemption !
This Purpose of the pleasure of the Lord prospering in the Hand of Christ, after His Soul being made an offering for sin Isa 53:10
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
This was foreordained before the world began 1 Pet 1:20
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
Now to see this, and still deny that sin was Created by God's Purpose for the
Eternal Purpose of Christ and His Pleasure, is tantamount to atheism, that there is no
God, to show such disregard and contempt to His revealed Eternal Purpose in
scripture through Christ Jesus !
TY for pointing to these Great Truths that declare the Glory of God in His Redemptive Purpose in all of His Creation!
Even after being shown these Truths from the Word of God, most will not find them palatable because,
in their own understanding, they cannot accept the fact that God created sin.
beloved
Absolutely!
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God ordained sin , evil for a good purpose !
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These two verses perfectly show what your saying. And it also beautifully shows the eternal Redemptive PURPOSE for why Christ Created the world in the first place.God ordained sin , evil for a good purpose !
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Good point !These two verses perfectly show what your saying. And it also beautifully shows the eternal Redemptive PURPOSE for why Christ Created the world in the first place.
Gen 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for am I in the place of God?
Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.
to save much people
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to save much people
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i. e. for whom he appointed glory beforehand (i. e., from eternity), and, accordingly, rendered them fit to receive it, Romans 9:23; to prepare beforehand in mind and purpose, i. e. to decree, Ephesians 2:10,
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
All of this was predestinated from everlasting. God did not make Adam and then adam sinned and God needed to intervene , No, Adam's sin was purposed by God in order to set the world stage for he outworking of the Redemption that was already predestinated, foreknown before the world began 1 Pet 1:20
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
Foreordained for what before the foundation ? 1 Pet 1:18-19
18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
That was the Work God gave Him to do Jn 17:4 before the World Began !