The Clock Ticks (Ahmed Mohamed's clock bomb)

Granite

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“I closed [the ‘clock’] with a cable, I didn’t want to lock it to make it seem like a threat. So I just used a simple cable so it won’t look that much suspicious.” - Ahmed

So he didn't want to scare people. Uh...okay.
 

Angel4Truth

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There were a few threads and a bunch of posts, I must have missed it. Where did he say that?

In a youtube video he made, speaking:

“I closed it with a cable, so… because, I didn’t want to lock it to make it seem like a threat so I just used simple cable…. so it won’t look that much suspicious”.
https://youtu.be/3mW4w0Y1OXE

He also first showed it to an engineering teacher, who informed him what it looked like also, and told the kid not to show it around to anyone else, and low and behold, he kept showing it off anyway.

He showed it to an english teacher, who called the police.

Clearly he knew what people thought.
 

Quetzal

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“I closed [the ‘clock’] with a cable, I didn’t want to lock it to make it seem like a threat. So I just used a simple cable so it won’t look that much suspicious.” - Ahmed
I feel like this could have been avoided with a little bit of planning. There was a kid in my high school who wanted to show a display sword since we were studying King Arthur legends. He asked the teacher and she said it was against school policy. However, the teacher asked the resource officer and he was cool with it so long as he brought it in a case/sheath, was inspected before it was brought into the building, and was escorted out once the lecture for the day was over.

Maybe Ahmed didn't think about it that far ahead, but it would have saved him a lot of trouble.
 

Granite

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I feel like this could have been avoided with a little bit of planning. There was a kid in my high school who wanted to show a display sword since we were studying King Arthur legends. He asked the teacher and she said it was against school policy. However, the teacher asked the resource officer and he was cool with it so long as he brought it in a case/sheath, was inspected before it was brought into the building, and was escorted out once the lecture for the day was over.

Maybe Ahmed didn't think about it that far ahead, but it would have saved him a lot of trouble.

Yeah, imagine that: He acted his age but somehow didn't plan on every single contingency like the little jihadist in training he clearly is. These terrorist tots are just baffling.:think:
 

Quetzal

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Yeah, imagine that: He acted his age but somehow didn't plan on every single contingency like the little jihadist in training he clearly is. These terrorist tots are just baffling.:think:
You know that is not what I meant. What I am saying is if he did have genuine reservations about possible misunderstandings, he should have told someone.
 

ok doser

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i may have missed this, but was he beaten?

was he waterboarded?

did his folk's neighborhood have barrel bombs dropped on it?
 

Granite

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You know that is not what I meant. What I am saying is if he did have genuine reservations about possible misunderstandings, he should have told someone.

And tell them what? That it was a clock? Because that's. What. He. Did.
 

Angel4Truth

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I suppose my idea was that this would be a discussion that should happen before be brought it in.

Which did happen after it was brought in (not for any homework, just a look at what i did session, and was immediately told NOT to show it to anyone else, and he kept doing it anyway, till another teacher called police)
 

ok doser

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And tell them what? That it was a clock? Because that's. What. He. Did.

riiiight

he carried around a "clock" that he knew looked like a bomb and when questioned about why he was carrying around something that looked like a bomb, answered "it's a clock"

and the school officials were supposed to do what? Take him at his word?


ahmed's "clock":

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most people's idea of a clock:

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most people's idea of a terrorist bomb:

521058-plane-bomb.jpg
 

Granite

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I suppose my idea was that this would be a discussion that should happen before be brought it in.

So he should've pointed the obvious out to the faculty--most of whom, to be fair, actually recognized the clock for what it was--counting on their collective ignorance to potentially foul the whole situation up.

I think that's known as the tyranny of low expectations.
 

Quetzal

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So he should've pointed the obvious out to the faculty--most of whom, to be fair, actually recognized the clock for what it was--counting on their collective ignorance to potentially foul the whole situation up.

I think that's known as the tyranny of low expectations.
Like it or not, we are in a very "jumpy" or "scared" state of mind. It is what it is. We can't go a few weeks without a school system making the news about a misunderstanding. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Given how it played out my immediate thought is that a simple request "Hey, I built a clock using a pencil case and a battery, can I bring it in tomorrow?" might have avoided it. This is not a illogical train of thought, I don't think.
 

Granite

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Like it or not, we are in a very "jumpy" or "scared" state of mind. It is what it is. We can't go a few weeks without a school system making the news about a misunderstanding. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Given how it played out my immediate thought is that a simple request "Hey, I built a clock using a pencil case and a battery, can I bring it in tomorrow?" might have avoided it. This is not a illogical train of thought, I don't think.

What other similar misunderstandings do you have in mind?
 

Quetzal

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No doubt whatever he has in mind you shall tear it to shreds?
Keeping in mind that he is a liberal but not liberal enough?
This is part of the critical process. I present an idea, he points out the weak points, I adjust my argument, he presents a counter argument; etc. No hurt feelings here.
 

StanJ

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riiiight
he carried around a "clock" that he knew looked like a bomb and when questioned about why he was carrying around something that looked like a bomb, answered "it's a clock"
and the school officials were supposed to do what? Take him at his word?

It was in an old pencil box and he didn't KNOW it looked like a bomb doser, that's your assertion. The school ENGLISH teacher should have reacted less and used his brain or got another teacher who KNOWS electronics to look at it. Yes I think his own teacher should have known him well enough to take him at his word, of course to a lot of them it is only a job and they feign interest when they actually don't have any. I found most teachers were power trippers, not only in my day but also when my kids went to school. I don't think much has changed.
 
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