Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Anti-Gay Therapy

[Lon]

Glassjester , who conservatives call "unwanted same sex attraction " is nothing but guilt which youngsters from Christian families have been brainwashed into feeling .
There are many young gay people with supportive parents and family who have NOT been subject to this bogus "therapy " .
"Conversion therapy " is a dangerous fraud which has caused many young gay people to commit suicide because of mental abuse which has caused overwhelming feelings of shame which they should never have been subject to . It SHOULD be illegal.
There is no such thing as an "ex gay ". All such people have been brainwashed , and they invariably revert eventually .

You act as if they found the 'gay' gene :think: So did the court. Peer pressure and pop psychology is running the country.

To date ALL gays I know personally are that way because of abuse. Exceptions? Heard of that rumor, never seen one.

 

[quip]

To date ALL gays I know personally are that way because of abuse. Exceptions? Heard of that rumor, never seen one.

I have. 2 in fact.

 

[MrDante]

Ok, then what?

It would seem like a good idea to adress those issues doen't it?

 

[MrDante]

Sexuality isnt appropriate for a 3 year old - stop being a perv

Yeah I know it isn't appropriate. Tell that to conversion therapists who find no problem starting with children as young as three.

 

[MrDante]

You act as if they found the 'gay' gene :think: So did the court. Peer pressure and pop psychology is running the country.

To date ALL gays I know personally are that way because of abuse. Exceptions? Heard of that rumor, never seen one.

Exceptions? Every single one I know.

 

[Lon]

I have. 2 in fact.

Some of them don't realize they were emotionally abused. They think that was normal :nono:

Many of them were raped, so while it wasn't familial abuse, it was yet abuse, etc.

 

[MrDante]

Some of them don't realize they were emotionally abused. They think that was normal :nono:

Many of them were raped, so while it wasn't familial abuse, it was yet abuse, etc.

They are gay because they were abused or they were abused because they were gay? (its' the second one)

 

[quip]

Some of them don't realize they were emotionally abused. They think that was normal :nono:

Many of them were raped, so while it wasn't familial abuse, it was yet abuse, etc.

I personally know Lon that neither were in fact abused, emotionally or otherwise. They are family and one grew up with the utmost Mayberry-esque upbringing by a Lutheran minister...in Texas no less.

Can your anecdotal evidence explain his "sudden" outbreak of homosexuality?

 

[glassjester]

It would seem like a good idea to adress those issues doen't it?

So then you try to "help" the person accept his same-sex attractions, rather than try to get rid of them. Is that right?

 

[quip]

So then you try to "help" the person accept his same-sex attractions, rather than try to get rid of them. Is that right?

Correct.
His/her only hindrance in life stem from the likes of glassjester...et al.

 

[glassjester]

Correct.
His/her only hindrance in life stem from the likes of glassjester...et al.

A person with unwanted same-sex attraction should never, under any circumstances, be helped to try to get rid of such attractions. Right?

 

[quip]

A person with unwanted same-sex attraction should never, under any circumstances, be helped to try to get rid of such attractions. Right?

They have a personal choice.

 

[glassjester]

They have a personal choice.

They can choose to try to get rid of their unwanted same-sex attraction?

 

[quip]

They can choose to try to get rid of their unwanted same-sex attraction?

As adults, they have that right.

The ethical/legal ramification of so-called conversion therapy is a another issue. (Especially regarding minors)

 

[kmoney]

I am not sure. Have there been any therapies for people with unwanted attractions, that don't involve torture? Certainly there must be.

I would assume there are therapies available to people who experience unwanted attractions to animals, or objects, for example. Could those same (non-torturous) approaches be used for unwanted same-sex attractions?

:idunno: I saw the article you posted later in the thread and it didn't seem to mention any therapies.

 

[kmoney]

Some of them don't realize they were emotionally abused. They think that was normal :nono:

Many of them were raped, so while it wasn't familial abuse, it was yet abuse, etc.

Lon: Never seen a gay person who wasn't abused
quip: I have
Lon: they just didn't realize they were abused

:doh:

 

[glassjester]

:idunno: I saw the article you posted later in the thread and it didn't seem to mention any therapies.

From: https://psychcentral.com/ask-the-therapist/2011/05/15/attraction-to-animals-and-children/

A reader writes in, saying she is attracted to animals and to children. The psychiatrist responds with the following advice:

You need to be proactive to effectively rectify this problem. I would strongly recommend therapy. Consider a sex therapist. Sex therapists specialize in understanding human sexuality. Sex therapists may have a greater range of knowledge when it comes to sexuality. Their goal will likely be to normalize your sexual focus. This may involve systematic exposure to “normal” sexual interests and analyzing and correcting your thought patterns.

 

[MrDante]

So then you try to "help" the person accept his same-sex attractions, rather than try to get rid of them. Is that right?

So you think its wrong to address an individualls slef hatred becasue htey might end up not hating themsleves right?

 

[MrDante]

They can choose to try to get rid of their unwanted same-sex attraction?

and short people are free to try to grow taller and people with unwanted levels of melanin in their skin are free to choose to try and to get rid of it.

 

[MrDante]

From: https://psychcentral.com/ask-the-therapist/2011/05/15/attraction-to-animals-and-children/

A reader writes in, saying she is attracted to animals and to children. The psychiatrist responds with the following advice:

Becasue being a heterosexual is just like being attracted to animals.