PETA wants lion hunter put to death

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The hunter generally has, if not ironically, a higher compassion for animals then others.
I've come to know this through experience with others- hunting is an intimate thing between man and beast.

PETA and all those tree huggers just don't understand :rolleyes:
 

Quetzal

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The hunter generally has, if not ironically, a higher compassion for animals then others.
I've come to know this through experience with others- hunting is an intimate thing between man and beast.

PETA and all those tree huggers just don't understand :rolleyes:
It is a rather strange way to show it. If I really respect someone, I typically don't shoot them.
 

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Let's just say that I grew up in a hunting environment where things like venison, quail, duck, goose, chucker, pheasant, Hungarian partridge (hun) etc. were regularly on the dinner table.

So you grew up around someone who understood it. Well that's just...special.

I remember how we used to laugh at you city folk who would come out to the rural areas of WA State and pretty much shoot at anything that moved (usually cows and occasionally their fellow city slicker).


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Like all hunters, duck hunters are in it for the sport/recreation. If a person only wants the meat, they can go to a their local wild game/exotic animal retail store (found in most cities) or purchase the meat via the www.

Stop trying to move the goalposts. I've been clear about the varied joys of the hunt from the jump here. What I've spoken against and consistently spoken against is those who kill singularly for the pleasure of it, men like this trophy hunting doofus.

Yes, you have been very consistent with your bleeding heart liberal stance on trophy hunting, although you haven't established if Dr. Palmer (or any other hunter for that matter) was hunting for thrill of the kill or if he indeed does take the meat and enjoy that as well.

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And who decides if population control is necessary? (drum roll...)

The local game dept.

Same response. And I've been equally clear about the good of thinning an overpopulation or even protecting your animals from other animals. Again, my criticism is specific and you haven't begun to address it.

"Protecting your animals from other animals"? Do you liberals now have a animal protection patrol where you drive around and make certain that a hawk doesn't steal a sparrow out of it's nest?


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The question was "Is it unethical to use bait to draw your desired animal in so that you can hunt them?"

That's your question. I think I've been clear about what I think of people who bait animals that should be tracked. Can you tack a duck? It's different, just as fishing is different.

Dr. Palmer paid quite a bit of money from what I understand when he hired professional hunting guides. I'll hold off on judging their method of hunting until I know more about what really happened (your leftwing media has been known to blow things out of proportion).


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If you can come up with some type of evidence which shows what kind of baiting Dr. Palmer used while lion hunting, then we can find out if that was common practice amongst lion hunters or not.

Doesn't matter to me if it's common or not. Doesn't matter to me if most deer hunters bait (though they don't). Doesn't impact my point.

Your bleeding heart liberal/granola crunching/tree hugging point is noted.
 

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Right. You did it because the Lord God said you are to eat all animals, just cook them first.


What are you jabbering on about Nicky? Nowhere in the bible is it commanded to eat all animals and by extension it isn't immoral not to eat meat. I believe it says that man has dominion over all animals which doesn't equate to the same thing.

Dingbat.

Don't go arguing Holy Scripture with Art Brain, Nick. He's TOL's resident pagan expert on the bible don't cha know.
 

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It is a rather strange way to show it. If I really respect someone, I typically don't shoot them.

We have a natural right to hunt and eat meat, just like a lion when he arches down to take out a gazelle. Hunters, like lions, do not enjoy the suffering of animals.
 

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Saved your crude language for your gay bathhouses roug.

Now a few words from lion hunters:

Both the lion and lioness can make for extremely exciting hunts. This member of the Big Five deserves your utmost respect. He is extremely nimble and fast, able to cover 100 yards in 3 to 4 seconds. Unpredictable as a house cat and extremely vindictive, he will finish what he starts and is well-equipped to make short work of a man. An ambush predator, if he is hurt and he knows what has hurt him, he will be intent on doing something about it!

Hunt 'Leo' with a minimum of .375 caliber, as is the lawful minimum in most African countries. One-shot kills with the .375 cannot always be guaranteed, so you may consider a larger caliber if you shoot it well. First shot placement is all important, as the follow-up on a wounded cat can be extremely exciting if not downright dangerous. A poorly shot lion will lie in wait and is capable of great speed in a charge. When he charges, he will target just one of the party of hunters and will be intent on doing deadly harm. It has been proposed by some that the correct rifle used for the follow-up on a wounded lion is not the same rifle you used for the initial shot. If available, use the largest caliber double rifle that you are comfortable with for this task. The lion in full charge can be an extremely difficult target and only a large caliber rifle can be counted upon to stop this big cat. Listen carefully to the instructions of your Professional Hunter and follow them to the letter. Take your time and proceed cautiously when on the trail of this largest of the African predators.
http://www.africanskyhunting.co.za/trophies/lion-hunting.html

Exactly. Even an old toothless lion is a formidable opponent. I'm betting lions have killed more innocents then all the professional hunters combined.
 

Quetzal

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We have a natural right to hunt and eat meat, just like a lion when he arches down to take out a gazelle. Hunters, like lions, do not enjoy the suffering of animals.
We also have farms and domesticated animals for such things. If the lions learn how to milk a cow, let me know. I will buy them their first pair of denim overalls.
 

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[Hunting theme room] You should be shot aCW.

Are you upset with
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child hunters also? Pr 8:36
 

serpentdove

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[Speak out for the one who cannot speak (Prov. 31:8, GWT)] Would you give it a rest? All of your posts have been off topic and a deliberate attempt to turn this into an abortion thread.
I'll put you down for :scripto: --no, don't give a damn about murder of innocence. Pr 8:36
 
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aCultureWarrior

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Would you give it a rest? All of your posts have been off topic and a deliberate attempt to turn this into an abortion thread.

I'll put you down for :scripto: --no, don't give a damn about murder of innocence. Pr 8:36

Let me put it this way Que:

People who have an ounce of decency in them care more about the murder (and selling of body parts) of unborn babies than they do killing a wild animal.
 

Arthur Brain

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The hunter generally has, if not ironically, a higher compassion for animals then others.
I've come to know this through experience with others- hunting is an intimate thing between man and beast.

PETA and all those tree huggers just don't understand :rolleyes:

What a load of bollocks.
 

Arthur Brain

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Right. You did it because the Lord God said you are to eat all animals, just cook them first.

Don't go arguing Holy Scripture with Art Brain, Nick. He's TOL's resident pagan expert on the bible don't cha know.

Oh, well perhaps you can point me to where God said that people are to eat all animals as Nick suggests then?

I'll wait while that doesn't happen shall I?

Honestly, the pair of you cretins make mothballs look intelligent.
 

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Exactly. Even an old toothless lion is a formidable opponent. I'm betting lions have killed more innocents then all the professional hunters combined.
According to National Geographic in an article written a few years before this incident around 600 lions were being bagged by trophy hunters each year. Americans account for the lion's share of those killed (around 60% of the trophies are shipped here).

How many trophy hunters died that or most years? Around none. So, with modern weapons and the way the "hunts" are set up the danger is mostly to your bank account.
 

Arthur Brain

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We have a natural right to hunt and eat meat, just like a lion when he arches down to take out a gazelle. Hunters, like lions, do not enjoy the suffering of animals.

Nobody is arguing otherwise from what I can see, apart from those who kill simply for the sadistic pleasure of the pointless taking of life in itself.
 

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If the twerp who killed the lion broke the law, put him in jail. If not, expose him publicly and let people know what kind of person he is.

Those who think it's great to artificially set up a wild animal so that a hunter-wannabee can kill it, will continue to patronize his business. Those who don't, will not.

Public shaming has its place.
 
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