PETA wants lion hunter put to death

[Cons&Spires]

Why bait a lion when you could just heave one over your shoulders and take them home?

 

[serpentdove]

Let me put it this way Que:

People who have an ounce of decency in them care more about the murder (and selling of body parts) of unborn babies than they do killing a wild animal.

:idunno: A simple question left unanswered :chz4brnz: by the God haters in this thread. Pr 8:36

 

[Daniel1611]

Abortion and trophy hunting are both wrong. Abortion is obviously much worse, but both are wrong.

 

[Arthur Brain]

I'll leave Nick to do his own explaining to TOL's expert pagan theologian.

That being said: do you know what Nick meant when he said "...just cook them"?

I very much doubt he will or even be able to. Rather like yourself he's somewhat short changed in the brain department. Yes, I'm aware what cooking is Connie...

Of course not, but that doesn't mean that God doesn't allow me to eat any kind of meat on earth (even lion).

Have you seen me argue otherwise?

Why is it that I get the feeling that your apartment is full of these kinds of "trophies" :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5lSQXjOmI0I/UbJXLJc3KUI/AAAAAAAAMVc/TDnnAID7eOs/s400/Full_Ashtray.jpg

Er, because you're an idiot?

:idunno:

 

[serpentdove]

I enjoy eating meat. But I think everyone who does, should watch animals being killed, just to understand the process.

An animal died to bring you your meal. This world if filled with suffering--for now. Ge 1:31, Ro 8:20-22, Rev. 20:1–10

 

[serpentdove]

Abortion and trophy hunting are both wrong. Abortion is obviously much worse, but both are wrong.

Not so

obvious. Child-killer Quetzal (Pr 23:7) is more outraged at lions being shot :sozo2: and threads being derailed :sozo2: than he is about arms and legs of babies being ripped off in the womb. Pr 8:36

 

[Quetzal]

Not so

obvious. Child-killer Quetzal (Pr 23:7) is more outraged at lions being shot :sozo2: and threads being derailed :sozo2: than he is about arms and legs of babies being ripped off in the womb. Pr 8:36

I said none of those things, nice try though.

 

[serpentdove]

I said none of those things, nice try though.

Here's what you didn't say: Killing babies is evil. Pr 8:36

 

[Quetzal]

Here's what you didn't say: Killing babies is evil. Pr 8:36

You are welcome to assume anything you like. Just understand that your assumptions, in this case, are not accurate. Cheers! :cheers:

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian observes:
In nature, animals are killed and eaten, often suffering more fear and pain than they would if they were killed in a slaughterhouse . This is the world we have. My only concern is that we inflict no more pain and anquish than we must.

Not merely for the animals. For us. Because inflicting pain can become an addiction, and we are very prone to that addiction.
It is one of the most corrosive things one can do to his soul.

Done the vast majority of the time by other animals.

Being innocent, animals don't comprehend the harm they do. And we do. This probably means nothing at all to you, but it has consequences for your soul.

Your issue obviously is with God

I have to conclude He did it in the best possible way. You could, I suppose, imagine that He made beasts kill each other to get even for Adam and Eve eating forbidden fruit. But somehow, that never made any sense to me. Or to most Christians. I can see why you'd suppose that it means something bad about God; you tend to blame others for things that are wrong with you.

 

[Ktoyou]

Yet PETA would rather see these animals starve to death than be hunted.

This is the most important part of your post. These crazy people, they prefer animals to human beings. It is they who do not deserve to live amongst human beings!

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Done the vast majority of the time by other animals.

Being innocent, animals don't comprehend the harm they do. And we do. This probably means nothing at all to you, but it has consequences for your soul.

Looking at the pictures of animals that have mauled (and grotesquely disfigured) human beings, anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that they're a far cry from being innocent.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Your issue obviously is with God

I have to conclude He did it in the best possible way.

(When it comes to praising God, that's about as close as the barbarian gets to doing so).

He let us know who is in charge in Genesis:

Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Genesis 1:26

Because of fish and game departments and animal control agencies, I'd say man has been very responsible when it comes to his duties to protect and enjoy the beasts that God created.

 

[Nick M]

Because inflicting pain can become an addiction, and we are very prone to that addiction.

That is very telling about you.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

This is the most important part of your post. These crazy people, they prefer animals to human beings. It is they who do not deserve to live amongst human beings!

The terrible things that a supposed animal protection group (PETA) has done is a thread in itself.

http://www.thisistrue.com/peta.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html (from the left wing Huffington Post)

http://fumento.com/environment/peta.html

Etc. etc. etc.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Looking at the pictures of animals that have mauled (and grotesquely disfigured) human beings, anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that they're a far cry from being innocent.

Oh my word, your idiocy really doesn't know any bounds does it? Of course they're innocent unless you really are dumb enough to anthropomorphize human morals onto animals. If you encroach or are even in an animals space then it is likely to attack. Do you think a spider is being immoral when it bites a person?

:doh:

 

[Ktoyou]

Pigs are thrown down chutes and boiled alive. If you don't believe it, look it up, as that is how I have known them to be slaughtered. They are too dirty to be handled manually.

PETA doesn't even accept the drinking of milk, they are full on vegan.

Then you should be able to cite a link to support that. I could care less what PETA thinks. My decision to become vegetarian had sod all to do with them.

Yeah.. they're boiled alive. That's very apparent, but deny it all you want. I did a Google search and saw no other method then burning swine with scolding water_

And go ahead and be a vegetarian, everyone who feared God before Noah were. But don't shame men for eating meat, because God gave us merit to do so.

Then I don't think you did a very in depth search. The first results on google make no mention of boiling pigs alive although some do mention how the carcass is put in hot water after culling. Perhaps you can direct me to a link where what you suggest actually happens? If such does happen it should obviously be outlawed immediately.

I've no interest in condemning or shaming people for eating meat either.

It may actually be illegal in the strict sense, the thing is nobody cares. The mass production of meat calls for convenient slaughter, and sending them down chutes into scolding water is one way to ensure a safe, speedy product.

I would lay money that it's illegal and there's more efficient ways to slaughter pigs than that abhorrent practice if such actually goes on. Usually it would seem the pigs are killed before exsanguination although not everywhere which is barbaric enough. I'm not seeing where it's anything approaching common practice where pigs are actually killed by being boiled alive however. Once again, cite?

Naw naw naw! It is not about pigs or lions, rather it is only about how humans perceive these creatures. The loin was a park feature, it was protected and given a name, it was a human attraction, and a human interest. Pigs are not the same; they are grown for food, not pets, and they are not considered wildlife.

It is how we perceive, which determines our reaction to animals. We do not eat dogs, they are pets, yet some in China do eat dogs. They perceive dogs differently, and that is the real difference.

Animals are not given Grace, and if you know scripture, you know all these were given to Adam, just read it!

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Oh my word, your idiocy really doesn't know any bounds does it? Of course they're innocent unless you really are dumb enough to anthropomorphize human morals onto animals. If you encroach or are even in an animals space then it is likely to attack. Do you think a spider is being immoral when it bites a person?

:doh:

Man is the one who defines innocence. I'm showing a barbarian and a chain smoking-tree hugging-granola crunching-vegetarian- pagan (who by the way is an expert theologian) that animals are a far cry from being innocent.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

..We do not eat dogs, they are pets, yet some in China do eat dogs...

A buddy of mine years ago invited his Vietnamese next door neighbor over to a barbecue and explained that he was cooking hot dogs and hamburgers.

His neighbors' reply:

"We no eat dog anymore".

 

[Ktoyou]

Well good, and that is human perception. No dog will post and opinion.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Man is the one who defines innocence. I'm showing a barbarian and a chain smoking-tree hugging-granola crunching-vegetarian- pagan (who by the way is an expert theologian) that animals are a far cry from being innocent.

Most men aren't dumb enough to attach ethics and morals to creatures that possess neither. You are stupid beyond words if you think an animal is being evil when it attacks people in itself. All you've shown (again) is your own complete lack of intelligence with feeble repetitive recourse to tedious witlessness.