PETA wants lion hunter put to death

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Man is the one who defines innocence. I'm showing a barbarian and a chain smoking-tree hugging-granola crunching-vegetarian- pagan (who by the way is an expert theologian) that animals are a far cry from being innocent.

Most men aren't dumb enough to attach ethics and morals to creatures that possess neither. You are stupid beyond words if you think an animal is being evil when it attacks people in itself. All you've shown (again) is your own complete lack of intelligence with feeble repetitive recourse to tedious witlessness.

When a Judge rules that a Pit Bull that tore a human being apart during an attack (or another dog as shown in the attached link) needs to be put down, he doesn't rule that the act was immoral or evil, he judges the animal based on whether the animal is innocent or guilty of the act.

It's that simple.

http://www.dailybulletin.com/genera...involved-in-fatal-dog-attack-must-be-put-down

 

[Arthur Brain]

When a Judge rules that a Pit Bull that tore a human being apart during an attack (or another dog as shown in the attached link) needs to be put down, he doesn't rule that the act was immoral or evil, he judges the animal based on whether the animal is innocent or guilty of the act.

It's that simple.

http://www.dailybulletin.com/genera...involved-in-fatal-dog-attack-must-be-put-down

He doesn't anthropomorphize either. The dog isn't put on trial to ascertain evil intent but put down as it's a danger to people. You on the other hand argued that animals aren't innocent. They are where it comes to ethics and morality or else go debate with a hippo and see how far that gets ya...

 

[aCultureWarrior]

He doesn't anthropomorphize either. The dog isn't put on trial to ascertain evil intent but put down as it's a danger to people.

i.e. "...Johnny Rango is a dangerous and vicious dog who is to be destroyed immediately."

You on the other hand argued that animals aren't innocent.
They are where it comes to ethics and morality...

Yet when looking up the definition of innocent in the dictionary, I see no reference to animals (you're using human standards and applying it to animals).

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/innocent

 

[Arthur Brain]

i.e. "...Johnny Rango is a dangerous and vicious dog who is to be destroyed immediately."

Where it comes to dangerous dogs or ones that have attacked then it's standard practice. They're not safe to be around people.

Yet when looking up the definition of innocent in the dictionary, I see no reference to animals (you're using human standards and applying it to animals).

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/innocent

Well of course you won't bloody see it as where it comes to ethics and morals then animals can't be held to those human standards goofball. You're the one who's applied the same with this 'gem' from only a few posts ago:

Man is the one who defines innocence. I'm showing a barbarian and a chain smoking-tree hugging-granola crunching-vegetarian- pagan (who by the way is an expert theologian) that animals are a far cry from being innocent.

You really aren't very bright at all are you? You really should know by now that projecting your own lunacy simply doesn't work.

:doh:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Where it comes to dangerous dogs or ones that have attacked then it's standard practice. They're not safe to be around people.



Well of course you won't bloody see it as where it comes to ethics and morals then animals can't be held to those human standards goofball. You're the one who's applied the same with this 'gem' from only a few posts ago:

Man is the one who defines innocence. I'm showing a barbarian and a chain smoking-tree hugging-granola crunching-vegetarian- pagan (who by the way is an expert theologian) that animals are a far cry from being innocent.

You really aren't very bright at all are you? You really should know by now that projecting your own lunacy simply doesn't work.

:doh:

I'm wondering where you're going with this "innocent" rant of yours. Is that the reason you became a granola crunching-tree hugging-vegetarian (who is an expert when it comes to theology), because you feel that animals are innocent and shouldn't be killed for eating or other purposes such as clothing apparel etc.?

Do you believe that animals have "rights"?

 

[Ktoyou]

PETA came from the word 'pet'

They are lapdog mamas
lapdog mamas
cat lady mamas
cat lady mamas
with nothing left to do

now sing along!

Lapdog mamas
lapdog mamas
cat lady mamas
cat lady mamas
with nothing left to do

goodnight!

 

[patrick jane]

it's only a BIG cat - it lived 13 years and had a good life (i assume) - btw, i think it's a fake story, never happened

 

[Arthur Brain]

I'm wondering where you're going with this "innocent" rant of yours. Is that the reason you became a granola crunching-tree hugging-vegetarian (who is an expert when it comes to theology), because you feel that animals are innocent and shouldn't be killed for eating or other purposes such as clothing apparel etc.?

Do you believe that animals have "rights"?

Oh my word. You really do lack the gumption to even inject any wit don't you? The same tired attempt at an insult...again? Really? Are you honestly so lacking that you have to resort to the same hackneyed crap time and time again? Do you not have any creativity about you at all?

Where it comes to innocence then you're the one that argued and even declared that animals are a 'far cry from being innocent' and are on record for doing so, so what exactly are they guilty of? It's not sin or immorality as the dictionary definition you so helpfully provided precludes them from anything like that, so what exactly were you on about?

Yes, animals have and should have rights and that's reflected under law including those farmed for food. Don't like that? Suck it up.

Oh, and I don't eat granola and nor do I hug trees, but don't let that stop you from processing the same witless braindead attempts at mockery you're so "renowned" for...

 

[zoo22]

it's only a BIG cat - it lived 13 years and had a good life (i assume) - btw, i think it's a fake story, never happened

You think it's a fake story?

Seriously? What leads you to believe it's a fake story?

... Or is it just that you want to fit in at the new "all conspiracy, all the time" TOL?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
I'm wondering where you're going with this "innocent" rant of yours. Is that the reason you became a granola crunching-tree hugging-vegetarian (who is an expert when it comes to theology), because you feel that animals are innocent and shouldn't be killed for eating or other purposes such as clothing apparel etc.?

Do you believe that animals have "rights"?

Oh my word. You really do lack the gumption to even inject any wit don't you? The same tired attempt at an insult...again? Really? Are you honestly so lacking that you have to resort to the same hackneyed crap time and time again? Do you not have any creativity about you at all?

Don't take it personal Art, the Seattle area is full of limp wristed-tree hugging-granola crunching-vegetarians and I have as much fun mocking them as I do you.

Where it comes to innocence then you're the one that argued and even declared that animals are a 'far cry from being innocent' and are on record for doing so, so what exactly are they guilty of? It's not sin or immorality as the dictionary definition you so helpfully provided precludes them from anything like that, so what exactly were you on about?

I never used the words "immoral" or "unethical", (you did) because God didn't make animals as He did humans (who have sense of right from wrong). I've simply pointed out that because of their inherent carnal behaviors, they're far from being innocent, based on Judeo-Christian standards. (They gang rape, they cannibalize, they kill other animals to take control of a pack, etc.).

Yes, animals have and should have rights and that's reflected under law including those farmed for food. Don't like that? Suck it up

God gave human beings rights, but not animals. Humans have a responsibility to protect animals, i.e. treat them humanely (hence cruelty to animal laws, etc.) but if they were given "rights", as shown in this PETA article, they would be put on the same level as humans.

"Supporters of animal rights believe that animals have an inherent worth—a value completely separate from their usefulness to humans. We believe that every creature with a will to live has a right to live free from pain and suffering. Animal rights is not just a philosophy—it is a social movement that challenges society’s traditional view that all nonhuman animals exist solely for human use. As PETA founder Ingrid Newkirk has said, “When it comes to pain, love, joy, loneliness, and fear, a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. Each one values his or her life and fights the knife.”
http://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/why-animal-rights/

Yes Art, your comrades at PETA believe that killing a rat is the equivalent to killing a little boy (but then it's been established that baby murderers don't get upset at Planned Parenthood murdering babies and selling their body parts, but they froth at the mouth at the mention of an animal being killed).

On that note: I think that the American Bald Eagle cooking in the oven is almost done.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Don't take it personal Art, the Seattle area is full of limp wristed-tree hugging-granola crunching-vegetarians and I have as much fun mocking them as I do you.

Why on earth would I take it personally? Your "mockery" is lame brained puerile repetitive 6th grade crap that emanates from a feeble mind devoid of anything resembling wit. You're just a sad little man who laughs at himself while everyone else has a straight face.

I never used the words "immoral" or "unethical", (you did) because God didn't make animals as He did humans (who have sense of right from wrong). I've simply pointed out that because of their inherent carnal behaviors, they're far from being innocent, based on Judeo-Christian standards. (They gang rape, they cannibalize, they kill other animals to take control of a pack, etc.).

You really do have to be kidding me, either that or you just set a new record for being gormless. If you're going to apply 'Judeo Christian standards' as the yardstick for innocence or guilt then you are applying that in regards to animals based on behaviour that involves morality by association. If an animal isn't held to those standards then it is completely innocent as they simply don't apply if it's only humans who are held accountable to them. So which is it?

Now don't forget that you're on record for the following too:

"Yet when looking up the definition of innocent in the dictionary, I see no reference to animals (you're using human standards and applying it to animals)."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/innocent

God gave human beings rights, but not animals. Humans have a responsibility to protect animals, i.e. treat them humanely (hence cruelty to animal laws, etc.) but if they were given "rights", as shown in this PETA article, they would be put on the same level as humans.

I could care less about PETA, and as you've rightfully pointed out (for once), animals do have rights aka those cruelty to animal laws, and rightly so. It's not a case of animals being put on the same level as humans as most with any sense already know.

Yes Art, your comrades at PETA believe that killing a rat is the equivalent to killing a little boy (but then it's been established that baby murderers don't get upset at Planned Parenthood murdering babies and selling their body parts, but they froth at the mouth at the mention of an animal being killed).

On that note: I think that the American Bald Eagle cooking in the oven is almost done.

I don't have any association with PETA and nor do I support them in any way, so another strike on your part.

 

[The Barbarian]

Done the vast majority of the time by other animals.

Barbarian observes:
Being innocent, animals don't comprehend the harm they do. And we do. This probably means nothing at all to you, but it has consequences for your soul.

Looking at the pictures of animals that have mauled (and grotesquely disfigured) human beings, anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that they're a far cry from being innocent.

If you think so, you're dumber than people think you are. And that's saying something. Animals don't have a sense of good and evil. If you were a Christian, you'd realize that on Earth, only humans have it. It's why we are like God, sharing the ability to know good and evil.

(Connie objects to innocent animals)

Your issue obviously is with God

It's the way He did it, Connie. I have to conclude He did it in the best possible way.

Connie objects again:

(When it comes to praising God, that's about as close as the barbarian gets to doing so).

If you think so, you have a very short memory. Or you think everyone else does. Being dumb and dishonest is a particularly easy way to get into trouble; you can't do much about the former, but you could do something about the latter.

Because of fish and game departments and animal control agencies, I'd say man has been very responsible when it comes to his duties to protect and enjoy the beasts that God created.

So after Europeans got here and started forming game departments and animal control agencies, the huge number of extinctions suddenly ended?

If you think so, you're dumber... well, you know. Government is your god, Connie. Sometimes government isn't the answer.

 

[serpentdove]

...[Y]our assumptions, in this case, are not accurate...

You've got the floor. You jumped right in to agree that :sozo2: lion lives matter :freak:, tell us about your outrage about babies being murdered in the womb. Pr 8:36

 

[serpentdove]

New outrage :sozo2: as huntress poses with dead giraffe

Aborted children since Roe v. Wade 58,134,735

Pr 8:36

See:

The Return of James White & the Eagle Eggs

 

[Quetzal]

You've got the floor. You jumped right in to agree that :sozo2: lion lives matter :freak:, tell us about your outrage about babies being murdered in the womb. Pr 8:36

That is not the topic today, let's at least pretend to stay focused on the OP. Thanks.

 

[patrick jane]

You think it's a fake story?

Seriously? What leads you to believe it's a fake story?

... Or is it just that you want to fit in at the new "all conspiracy, all the time" TOL?

yes. do you think the world stops and gets enraged when a lion dies ? what is the lifespan of a lion in africa ? no conspiracy, just fake -

 

[Quetzal]

yes. do you think the world stops and gets enraged when a lion dies ? what is the lifespan of a lion in africa ? no conspiracy, just fake -

I believe it is real. This was the perfect storm, so to speak, and the media ran with it.

 

[bybee]

I believe it is real. This was the perfect storm, so to speak, and the media ran with it.

The liberal press opened its collective maw and just like Voldemort sent a fetid blast of negative air out into the public!

 

[Quetzal]

The liberal press opened its collective maw and just like Voldemort sent a fetid blast of negative air out into the public!

The press, in general, is notorious for these kinds of things. This is not limited to the liberal media.

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian explains why we should avoid needlessly harming animals:
Because inflicting pain can become an addiction, and we are very prone to that addiction.

Nick in denial:

That is very telling about you.

It is very telling that you don't recognize this in yourself. It is because of that, that you behave the way you do.

Here's what happens with people who don't get this:
The results showed that people who reported being cruel to animals as children were more likely to be perpetrators of domestic violence as adults. This supports the graduation hypothesis. However, and perhaps surprisingly, they were also more likely to be victims of violence than those who had not been cruel to animals.

At the same time, the results showed that if the parents were perpetrators of violence then, 14 years later, their children were more likely to say they had been cruel to animals. This supports the idea that the family context plays a role in children’s violence to animals.
http://www.psmag.com/health-and-behavior/cruel-animals-kid-predict-later-criminal-behavior-91866

That's talking to you, Nick. I care a lot about animals;learning about them, discovering how many of them have the same emotions that we do, it matters to me. I recognize that while I like to think I always have good intentions, there is a part of me that doesn't. This is true for every human who has ever lived, save one. And you aren't Him, not by a long shot, Nick.

I suppose I should be offended, but of course it's you, and given the other bilge you've embarrassed your friends with in the past, I recognize that you can't help yourself, even if you do know the difference.