PETA wants lion hunter put to death

[Arthur Brain]

Where was the "cruelty" in the killing of the lion by Dr. Palmer princess? He used a bow and arrow.

"Pointless" is a subjective word used by liberals such as yourself because hunters do have a reason to hunt.

Well Queenie, the cruelty lies in the deliberate and premeditated killing of an animal where there was no reason to do so and unless you think that being shot with a bow and arrow is a completely painless experience then I suggest you test that method on yourself. I'd aim for the safest area in your case, that being your forehead as little damage would occur...

Where it comes to hunting then there are legitimate reasons, but sadistic sport ain't one of them.

 

[Town Heretic]

Well Queenie, the cruelty lies in the deliberate and premeditated killing of an animal where there was no reason to do so and unless you think that being shot with a bow and arrow is a completely painless experience then I suggest you test that method on yourself. I'd aim for the safest area in your case, that being your forehead as little damage would occur...

Where it comes to hunting then there are legitimate reasons, but sadistic sport ain't one of them.

A hunter tracks, dresses and eats what he kills. He doesn't bait a field. He doesn't have drivers. This guy's a joke to someone who understands hunting.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Well Queenie, the cruelty lies in the deliberate and premeditated killing of an animal

Every hunter that I've ever known planned (premeditated) and deliberately killed the animal that they were hunting (it wasn't an accident that their 12 gauge shotgun dropped a grouse from the sky).

where there was no reason to do so and unless you think that being shot with a bow and arrow is a completely painless experience then I suggest you test that method on yourself. I'd aim for the safest area in your case, that being your forehead as little damage would occur...

Where it comes to hunting then there are legitimate reasons, but sadistic sport ain't one of them.

I pointed out in an earlier post that when issued a hunting permit, a reason for hunting the animal doesn't have to be given by the hunter, nor does the game dept. issuing the permit require that the meat from the animal be consumed (i.e. the people who manage wildlife preservation don't care if you're trophy hunting or hunting for food).

 

[aCultureWarrior]

A hunter tracks, dresses and eats what he kills. He doesn't bait a field. He doesn't have drivers. This guy's a joke to someone who understands hunting.

And this knowledge is based on your hunting experience in Africa?

 

[serpentdove]

"...[T]he cruelty lies in the deliberate and premeditated killing of an animal where there was no reason to do so and unless you think that being shot with a bow and arrow is a completely painless experience then I suggest you test that method on yourself."

Do you feel the same about abortionists? Pr 8:36

 

[Town Heretic]

And this knowledge is based on your hunting experience in Africa?

I wasn't talking to you, but I speak as someone who tracked, killed, field dressed and ate what he hunted. And men who do that understand what men who don't are and what they aren't.

I have been to Africa, but not to hunt or do what that idiot did.

 

[serpentdove]

This story is horrible.

Are abortionists horrible? Pr 8:36

 

[Cons&Spires]

Who is condemned to death for killing a big cat..
besides NOBODY.
PETA has it's own can of worms. If I'm not mistaken, they themselves were responsible for the deaths of many animals out of neglect- they were 'protecting' animals without actually caring for them, if what I recall is correct.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

I wasn't talking to you, but I speak as someone who tracked, killed, field dressed and ate what he hunted. And men who do that understand what men who don't are and what they aren't.

I have been to Africa, but not to hunt or do what that idiot did.

So tell me ole great white hunter: How long would it take to field dress this animal?

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[Arthur Brain]

Every hunter that I've ever known planned (premeditated) and deliberately killed the animal that they were hunting (it wasn't an accident that their 12 gauge shotgun dropped a grouse from the sky).

Did you somehow miss the part "Where there was no reason to do so"? This guy hunted an animal for nothing other than "sport".

I pointed out in an earlier post that when issued a hunting permit, a reason for hunting the animal doesn't have to be given by the hunter, nor does the game dept. issuing the permit require that the meat from the animal be consumed (i.e. the people who manage wildlife preservation don't care if you're trophy hunting or hunting for food).

'Trophy hunters' who hunt only for the 'thrill' of killing an animal and adorning their abodes with stuffed carcasses are tosspots quite frankly, so you fit right in even though there'd be little chance of you actually hitting one. This lion was actually under protection and was deliberately coaxed out of its habitat to be hunted by some moron for fun by most accounts.

 

[Town Heretic]

So tell me ole great white hunter: How long would it take to field dress this animal?

That animal wasn't killed for food, which is the point. He's not a hunter, he's a poser and a butcher, a man who has other men do everything short of tie the animal down for him to slaughter it.

But I don't expect someone who isn't a hunter to understand me, especially not if he's moronic enough to defend him.

 

[Cons&Spires]

'Trophy hunters' who hunt only for the 'thrill' of killing an animal and adorning their abodes with stuffed carcasses are tosspots quite frankly

Meh, I don't see anything wrong with it. It takes a lot of guile and patience to hunt beasts. It's a mark of being a true blue hunter, honorable by it's own notion.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Every hunter that I've ever known planned (premeditated) and deliberately killed the animal that they were hunting (it wasn't an accident that their 12 gauge shotgun dropped a grouse from the sky).

Did you somehow miss the part "Where there was no reason to do so"? This guy hunted an animal for nothing other than "sport".

Again: When the game dept. issues a hunting license, the hunter doesn't have to give a reason for hunting said animal. The game dept. doesn't care if it's for trophy hunting (sport) or for food.

It hasn't been established that Dr. Palmer abandoned all of the animals that he killed. We'll need to find out more on why he abandoned this one.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
I pointed out in an earlier post that when issued a hunting permit, a reason for hunting the animal doesn't have to be given by the hunter, nor does the game dept. issuing the permit require that the meat from the animal be consumed (i.e. the people who manage wildlife preservation don't care if you're trophy hunting or hunting for food).

'Trophy hunters' who hunt only for the 'thrill' of killing an animal and adorning their abodes with stuffed carcasses are tosspots quite frankly, so you fit right in even though there'd be little chance of you actually hitting one.

Your bleeding heart liberal subjective viewpoint is once again duly noted.

This lion was actually under protection and was deliberately coaxed out of its habitat to be hunted by some moron for fun by most accounts.

But you're against all lion hunting aren't you? It doesn't matter how they were hunted.

 

[Town Heretic]

Meh, I don't see anything wrong with it. It takes a lot of guile and will to hunt beasts. It's a mark of being a true blue hunter, honorable by it's own notion.

Have you ever tracked and killed game? If you take the life of something it signifies. How you approach that and respond to it does as well.

It took no guile to do what this man had done and participated in. He's no hunter and there's no honor in his killing.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
So tell me ole great white hunter: How long would it take to field dress this animal?

That animal wasn't killed for food, which is the point. He's not a hunter, he's a poser and a butcher, a man who has other men do everything short of tie the animal down for him to slaughter it.

The Rhino was killed because the game dept. allowed it. Do you know better than a game dept. what animals should and shouldn't be hunted?

Are you against all hunters that mount their kill on their den walls?

But I don't expect someone who isn't a hunter to understand me, especially not if he's moronic enough to defend him.

LOL...whatever you say ole great white hunter.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Meh, I don't see anything wrong with it. It takes a lot of guile and patience to hunt beasts. It's a mark of being a true blue hunter, honorable by it's own notion.

There's nothing honourable about taking life for no other reason than the actual taking of it, no matter how much 'guile and patience' is involved in the act.

 

[Cons&Spires]

Have you ever tracked and killed game? If you take the life of something it signifies. How you approach that and respond to it does as well.

Yes, and I can imagine it's be difficult to kill a lion over a deer because deer are nothing more than giant rabbits- they freeze up or run.
A lion, however, is a much more sly creature who probably gets the drop on you before you do them by default, and isn't going to go down with a single shot unless it is perfectly aimed.
Big cats are known to charge, they are not entirely naive animals.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

There's nothing honourable about taking life for no other reason than the actual taking of it, no matter how much 'guile and patience' is involved in the act.

You might want to ask your friend the great white hunter why he just didn't go to the store and buy a package of tofu instead of going out and murdering innocent animals (he didn't need the meat, he did it for the sport).

 

[Town Heretic]

Yes, and I can imagine it's be difficult to kill a lion over a deer because deer are nothing more than giant rabbits- they freeze up or run.

It's not difficult to kill anything if you have the right equipment, training and patience, but why you kill and how you kill is important.

A lion, however, is a much more sly creature who probably gets the drop on you before you do them by default, and isn't going to go down with a single shot unless it is perfectly aimed.

A lion who's baited into an area where you've set up a watch isn't much different from an elk unless you lack nerve, in terms of the killing at any rate. A lion who is driven into you isn't cunning at all, he's distracted. They do the same for deer. They're loud coming on. It's not much different from spooking quail except the quail can't eat you if you get it wrong.

Big cats are known to charge, they are not entirely naive animals.

A man goes after a lion alone, he's stupid but brave. What this fellow did wan't either.

 

[Arthur Brain]

I pointed out in an earlier post that when issued a hunting permit, a reason for hunting the animal doesn't have to be given by the hunter, nor does the game dept. issuing the permit require that the meat from the animal be consumed (i.e. the people who manage wildlife preservation don't care if you're trophy hunting or hunting for food).

And once again, people who hunt animals simply for the purpose of killing them for "sport" are complete tossers.

Your bleeding heart liberal subjective viewpoint is once again duly noted.

There's nothing 'liberal' about it. Callousness and cruelty are traits that anyone with an ounce of humanity about them would find objectionable, like killing animals for "sport".

But you're against all lion hunting aren't you? It doesn't matter how they were hunted.

It would depend on who and why.