Quetzal
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You know my opinion on abortion, we have had this discussion before. As far as the lion, if it was done illegally, he should be held legally accountable. The end.
PETA wants lion hunter put to death
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Quetzal
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From the article:
This summarizes my thoughts pretty well. I was talking with my roommate last night about this. There are so many other things, and yet, social media decided to cling to this.
republicanchick
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yes, but don't you realize?
this same person attacking this hunter is expending HUGE amounts of time, energy and resources to ALSO defend the lives of the unborn...
right?
I mean, you know, you would assume that... since she mentions
empathy, understanding, and respect for living creatures
right?
I mean, i don't know for absolute sure she is defending unborn childre, but ...
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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
PE“He needs to be extradited, charged, and, preferably, hanged.”
[accused is] over-privileged little man, who lack empathy, understanding, and respect for living creatures, death/[/url]
Those weren't my words, it was from the OP article. I think that it's ridiculous (with all of the atrocities going on in our country and throughout the world) that the death of a lion should get so much media coverage.
But then the media feasts on things that really don't matter when it comes to the big picture.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
PE“He needs to be extradited, charged, and, preferably, hanged.”
[accused is] over-privileged little man, who lack empathy, understanding, and respect for living creatures, death/[/url]
Those weren't my words, it was from the OP article. I think that it's ridiculous (with all of the atrocities going on in our country and throughout the world) that the death of a lion should get so much media coverage.
But then the media feasts on things that really don't matter when it comes to the big picture.
republicanchick
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I spent many a year living in a rural area, watching cattle and various other animals get slaughtered. As a kid it was rather unsettling to watch a cow that you watched grow from a calf (she even had a name) being slaughtered.
I think my memory faded after sinking my teeth into a nice juicy corn fed T-bone steak.
You missed the field dressing part then.
Hunters aren't sadists and they don't go about their hunting weeping. The middle ground is understanding and respect. Understanding our place in the chain and respecting the prey and the act. A sadist doesn't. Someone who weeps his way through it doesn't either.
I think anyone who enjoys inflicting suffering is either ill or immature. The problem with young hunters who aren't taught respect is that they can bring the glee kids have for destruction into what they do and it mars and perverts the process. Show me a man who seems normal but enjoys killing and I'll show you someone who didn't have the right teacher and has a bit of that childhood immaturity bound up in his hunt and his personality.
Nothing wrong with that.
There's a lot to enjoy in the hunt. A sort of fellowship, testing, physical trial, being connected to nature in a palpable way that you aren't in the day to day walking about and doing a job, etc. Providing food in a way that communicates something absent from grocery shopping about who and what we are, something important about life is distanced from people who have no connection to that.
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I'm not against trophies, though I never kept one. I'm against trophy hunters.
He doesn't do anything a hunter couldn't do and with the right approach/respect.
This guy isn't a hunter. He's just a guy on a target range where the targets bleed and suffer. He's an embarrassing, overgrown kid who didn't learn anything worth knowing in relation.
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In the US, Palmer might actually get a fair trial if that was substantiated. I'm not sure what will happen if he's extradited and tried in a Zimbabwe court.
Is there even such a thing? There aren't many lions nowadays.
And now a few words from the people of Zimbabwe:
"While the death of a protected lion in Zimbabwe has caused outrage in the United States — much of it centered on the Minnesota dentist who killed the animal — most in Zimbabwe expressed a degree of bafflement over the concern.
The discovery that Cecil, the star of Zimbabwe national park had been lured out and killed by American bow hunter Walter James Palmer has resulted in online anger and protests at his dental clinic.
Outside Zimbabwe's environmental and activist circles, however, the reaction been muted.
"It's so cruel, but I don't understand the whole fuss, there are so many pressing issues in Zimbabwe — we have water shortages, no electricity, and no jobs — yet people are making noise about a lion?" said Eunice Vhunise, a Harare resident. "I saw Cecil once when I visited the game park. I will probably miss him. But honestly the attention is just too much."
An economic meltdown over the past few years has closed many companies and left two-thirds of the population working in the informal economy while battling acute water and electricity shortages.
Most people questioned in downtown Harare hadn't actually heard about the lion and said they were too busy trying to make a living to care about it."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/zimb...-problems-in-the-country-2015-7#ixzz3hWH87zJG
"While the death of a protected lion in Zimbabwe has caused outrage in the United States — much of it centered on the Minnesota dentist who killed the animal — most in Zimbabwe expressed a degree of bafflement over the concern.
The discovery that Cecil, the star of Zimbabwe national park had been lured out and killed by American bow hunter Walter James Palmer has resulted in online anger and protests at his dental clinic.
Outside Zimbabwe's environmental and activist circles, however, the reaction been muted.
"It's so cruel, but I don't understand the whole fuss, there are so many pressing issues in Zimbabwe — we have water shortages, no electricity, and no jobs — yet people are making noise about a lion?" said Eunice Vhunise, a Harare resident. "I saw Cecil once when I visited the game park. I will probably miss him. But honestly the attention is just too much."
An economic meltdown over the past few years has closed many companies and left two-thirds of the population working in the informal economy while battling acute water and electricity shortages.
Most people questioned in downtown Harare hadn't actually heard about the lion and said they were too busy trying to make a living to care about it."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/zimb...-problems-in-the-country-2015-7#ixzz3hWH87zJG
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I wonder why he didn't get a permit for lion hunting?
http://www.africahuntlodge.com/lion_hunt_package.asp
21,000 according to this website.
http://www.defenders.org/african-lion/basic-facts
You really need to learn how to use an internet search engine.
I wonder why he didn't get a permit for lion hunting?
http://www.africahuntlodge.com/lion_hunt_package.asp
21,000 according to this website.
http://www.defenders.org/african-lion/basic-facts
You really need to learn how to use an internet search engine.
:chz4brnz: It's a simple question: Are you as outraged about a human being murdered in the womb as you are a lion being killed? Pr 8:36
Arthur Brain
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I'm sure there are more pressing concerns for people in Zimbabwe than over the culling of a lion, that's hardly breaking news but it doesn't negate the fact that this crank of a dentist went out of his way to kill one and can hardly be surprised at the uproar that followed.
As the article showed, the uproar is from you liberals. Note how it hasn't been established that Dr. Palmer knew that he was illegally hunting a lion.
Arthur Brain
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Hmm, I didn't realize it was solely a "liberal" trait to find cruelty towards and the pointless killing of animals objectionable Connie. Then again, I am talking to a crank who'd love to live in a house with a 'trophy room' full of animal corpses so any political term in regards to you is moot. Complete knob will suffice.
As to the latter, how could he not know? Is he as thick as you or something?
Where was the "cruelty" in the killing of the lion by Dr. Palmer princess? He used a bow and arrow.
"Pointless" is a subjective word used by liberals such as yourself because hunters do have a reason to hunt.