On Deservedness

[patrick jane]

Some deserve a swift kick in the patootie (Prov. 3:11, 12). :idunno:





Good thing we don't get what we deserve. :shocked:

Biblical yes. In the real world we don't deserve bad things.

 

[serpentdove]

In the real world we don't deserve bad things.

Bad things lead to good things (Mt 5:3, Is 61:3, 2 Ti 2:12 KJV, Ps 30:5).

 

[freelight]

mind stretch......

mind stretch......

Well, that's a little too "cosmic" for me. I understand what you're saying, but you could tighten this up a bit and you'd find a very personal God who knows the number of hairs on our heads. One who cares more than the cosmos ever could.

My theology does include a 'personal' God, but also all other aspects of Deity which include pre-personal, super-personal and trans-personal

The Urantia Papers expound wonderfully upon the Personality of 'God' here.

God as Love definitely includes the most intimate "personal" experience, but there are dimensions of reality that are prior to and transcending personality...which are wholly material and non-personal. Total reality includes all definitions and what is indefinite.

 

[theophilus]

Exactly, like I sated early in this thread. The word deserve makes the answer no. An expectation is more appropriate.

Hebrews 10:26-31 ~ 26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Agreeing with expectation.

 

[freelight]

You're the Voice............

You're the Voice............

I listen to voices of reason.

- I like this statement.

With that in mind, I pray any shared thoughts, words and feelings are reconciled in a spirit of humility and understanding, and ultimately forgiveness concerning any misunderstandings, misrepresentations that may have been 'interpreted' from all sides of this discussion, trusting that divine grace and wisdom shall be the arbiter, coordinating all things by divine providence.

Regardless of differences of opinion or point of view, let us be at peace with one another, staying open to continue learning and changing our view, if needed at any point in time. Life is a wonderful journey.

~*~*~

Just for fun, as a flash-back from the 80's to get everyone on the same page,...enjoy this classic "You're the voice" by John Farnham - the lyrics and music are just as pertinent today as ever,...an anthem towards making peace in all human relations. The album 'Whispering Jack' that this single is from held no. 1 on the Australia charts for 25 weeks. Anyways,...just moving things in a different direction here.

:tunes:

You're the voice - John Farnham

Lyrics:

We have the chance to turn the pages over
We can write what we want to write
We gotta make ends meet, before we get much older

We're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?

You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear
Oh-wo-wo-wo, oh-wo-wo-wo
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear
Oh-wo-wo-wo, oh-wo-wo-wo

This time, we know we all can stand together
With the power to be powerful
Believing we can make it better

:thumb:

 

[truthjourney]

- I like this statement.

With that in mind, I pray any shared thoughts, words and feelings are reconciled in a spirit of humility and understanding, and ultimately forgiveness concerning any misunderstandings, misrepresentations that may have been 'interpreted' from all sides of this discussion, trusting that divine grace and wisdom shall be the arbiter, coordinating all things by divine providence.

Regardless of differences of opinion or point of view, let us be at peace with one another, staying open to continue learning and changing our view, if needed at any point in time. Life is a wonderful journey.

Great post and I enjoyed the video. :thumb:

 

[patrick jane]

- I like this statement.


Just for fun, as a flash-back from the 80's to get everyone on the same page,...enjoy this classic "You're the voice" by John Farnham - the lyrics and music are just as pertinent today as ever,...an anthem towards making peace in all human relations. The album 'Whispering Jack' that this single is from held no. 1 on the Australia charts for 25 weeks. Anyways,...just moving things in a different direction here.

Wait, is this the cosmic cafe now ?

 

[annabenedetti]

Really, what a compliment. Have you heard me call anyone silly, a liberal, a humanist, etc....any name at all?
Because I really try not to do that.

:chuckle: After having a good laugh at the news that you're me, you may be surprised to know that I've actually had the thought before that you remind me a little of myself, although I'm definitely the beneficiary to any comparison between us.

 

[patrick jane]

:chuckle: After having a good laugh at the news that you're me, you may be surprised to know that I've actually had the thought before that you remind me a little of myself, although I'm definitely the beneficiary to any comparison between us.

I'm so glad you're back anna, I was worried how long it would be.

 

[truthjourney]

:chuckle: After having a good laugh at the news that you're me, you may be surprised to know that I've actually had the thought before that you remind me a little of myself, although I'm definitely the beneficiary to any comparison between us.

Really? Ok then it sounds even better coming from you. Now I'm doubly complimented. :chuckle:

 

[patrick jane]

Really? Ok then it sounds even better coming from you. Now I'm doubly complimented. :chuckle:

You are both exactly like my first wife . . . . I've never been married

 

[annabenedetti]

Really? Ok then it sounds even better coming from you. Now I'm doubly complimented. :chuckle:

No, you should be worried. Also, wait for the first to say that sure, it's easy for a sock to be complimented. :chuckle:

 

[ok doser]

You are both exactly like my first wife . . . . I've never been married

have you stopped beating her yet?

 

[annabenedetti]

I'm so glad you're back anna, I was worried how long it would be.

Thank you, I appreciate that. I didn't have any priors or it would've been for a long time. I don't plan to be here as much though, I have a lot going on in real life. Not to mention how this place has been circling the drain lately. It makes me not want to be here for that reason alone.

 

[truthjourney]

No, you should be worried. Also, wait for the first to say that sure, it's easy for a sock to be complimented. :chuckle:

No, I think I have more important things to worry about like surgery next week. So let them say whatever they want.

 

[annabenedetti]

No, I think I have more important things to worry about like surgery next week. So let them say whatever they want.

I know you do, and you're absolutely right. I'll be waiting to hear from you that all went well and you're on the road to recovery.

 

[truthjourney]

I know you do, and you're absolutely right. I'll be waiting to hear from you that all went well and you're on the road to recovery.

Thank you Anna. I'll let you know.

 

[ok doser]

No, I think I have more important things to worry about like surgery next week. So let them say whatever they want.

how about "good luck with your surgery"? :idunno:

 

[Tambora]

surgery next week

Praying all goes well for you.

 

[truthjourney]

how about "good luck with your surgery"? :idunno:

Thank you.