On Deservedness

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glorydaz

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She's already been quoted many times saying exactly that. But it doesn't seem to matter how many times either she or Sod are quoted saying exactly that. People will stay say that they didn't say it or mean what they said.

No you know what you believe and you know what you've said. You just think nobody can remember it or better yet have forgotten it. Well think again.

I think truthjourney is Anna. Reincarnated. Certainly not new...too much anger. :think:

Really, what a compliment. :) Have you heard me call anyone silly, a liberal, a humanist, etc....any name at all?
Because I really try not to do that.

Yep....you're Anna. Who slipped you in the back door? Did you get some fake ID, too?

No, you don't know me. You're using the bible to justify your own thinking and actions. ....I am not going to give criminals any leeway to shift blame onto their victims. So I don't support that kind of thinking.

False accusations now?

Not as false as your accusations, Anna. You had to have been smart enough to get backup from somewhere higher up, but I doubt it was Knight.

Here's a post from Anna....pre ban. Any one who supports SOD is Anna's enemy. The ANGER is the dead give-away.

ANNA -
Sod is Knight's pet troll. Knight pats him on the head for upping the post counts and says "good doggie.​
 

truthjourney

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Not as false as your accusations, Anna. You had to have been smart enough to get backup from somewhere higher up, but I doubt it was Knight.

Here's a post from Anna....pre ban. Any one who supports SOD is Anna's enemy. The ANGER is the dead give-away.

ANNA -
Sod is Knight's pet troll. Knight pats him on the head for upping the post counts and says "good doggie.​
You don't know how wrong you are. If I were you I would stop these false accusations. You're just making yourself look bad.
 

glorydaz

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I know that you're making false accusations about me.

Right. ;)

I wouldn't even have said anything except your hatred of both SOD and me is palpable.

Now, speaking of false accusations. You have insisted SOD has said things he didn't say....even though you have assured him you have forgotten nothing. :chuckle:

And, you have accused me of using the Bible wrongly. That is more of a false accusation than I am willing to overlook. People do reap what they sow and the consequences for one's bad behavior is often not pleasant. You may or may not get away with it....some do, even when they deserve to pay a price.
 

truthjourney

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Right. ;)

I wouldn't even have said anything except your hatred of both SOD and me is palpable.

Now, speaking of false accusations. You have insisted SOD has said things he didn't say....even though you have assured him you have forgotten nothing. :chuckle:

And, you have accused me of using the Bible wrongly. That is more of a false accusation than I am willing to overlook. People do reap what they sow and the consequences for one's bad behavior is often not pleasant. You may or may not get away with it....some do, even when they deserve to pay a price.
I don't hate anybody not even my worst enemies who I have reason to hate.
 

glorydaz

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I don't hate anybody not even my worst enemies who I have reason to hate.

I don't think that really matters. I don't hate anyone either, but I've been accused of that and much worse than that. All because people are unwilling to have a rational discussion. And what you're doing is the same thing so many others are doing. Ranting and pointing fingers and refusing to hear what has been said. This selective hearing and spite-filled rhetoric is nothing more than lynch mob mentality. Mobs are ugly things, but those in the mob don't see it. It's time someone stopped at saw it.
 

freelight

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Whoa Nelly......

Whoa Nelly......

Yep....you're Anna. Who slipped you in the back door? Did you get some fake ID, too?

Take a chill pill glorydaz,

I think your projecting here,....truthjourney is NOT Anna. I can vouch for that with the information and communications I have thus far with both of them. If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll stand corrected.

As far as anyone deserving to be 'raped' or become victims of a crime, somehow being God's punishment....or his 'allowance' to teach someone something (predetermined suffering),....that's presumptuous, but there are more factors involved here, if you want to make your case. I could equally bring in the law of karma here, but even that has modifiers.

There are some things that appear to be 'accidental', and some suffer for other people sins by being in proximity, so not everything that happens to a person is "deserved" necessarily (although apparently allowed for some 'reason' or by some random chance),...I'd say its more complex....but I haven't followed past discussion where these claims were made, so cant add further on that at the moment. Yes,..."whatever one sows, that also he reaps",...but to say all victims of crimes DESERVED it, well,...I don't think this will go well with most people, since many victims may not see any connection, justice or reason for what was committed against them as far as they or anyone else can tell.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
...I am not going to give criminals any leeway to shift blame onto their victims.

the klansman who goes to Michael Brown's funeral wearing robes and hood and shouts racial slurs at the grieving parents - i say he deserves the beating he gets

those who beat him are guilty of assault and should be held responsible for their choice to beat him

but holding the klansman responsible for his own actions in no way shifts blame from his attackers

do you understand what I am saying in the above scenario that has nothing to do with rape?
 

truthjourney

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the klansman who goes to Michael Brown's funeral wearing robes and hood and shouts racial slurs at the grieving parents - i say he deserves the beating he gets

those who beat him are guilty of assault and should be held responsible for their choice to beat him

but holding the klansman responsible for his own actions in no way shifts blame from his attackers

do you understand what I am saying in the above scenario that has nothing to do with rape?
Are you saying that just because somebody shouts racial slurs that they deserve to be beaten? Now if the klansman had physically attacked those grieving parents THEN he would have deserved a beating in SELF DEFENSE.
I have been in many situations where people have used racial slurs to me, where I have been called names, threatened, someone even told me they were going to kill me "graveyard dead". Just words. But if they put their hands on me and/or try to hurt me physically then it's more than words and it's beating time or whatever I have to do to defend myself.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Are you saying that just because somebody shouts racial slurs that they deserve to be beaten?

i'm saying that in the scenario as given, the klansman knew he was putting himself at risk of being beaten and deserved what he got

kinda like whacking a bees nest - when the bees come out and sting you, you get what you deserve
 

truthjourney

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i'm saying that in the scenario as given, the klansman knew he was putting himself at risk of being beaten and deserved what he got

kinda like whacking a bees nest - when the bees come out and sting you, you get what you deserve
The racist neanderthal klansman deserved to have been escorted away from the funeral by police. And don't give him so much credit to say that he knew he was putting himself at risk of being beaten. Because people like that don't have enough sense to think that far ahead much less consider the consequences.
 

glorydaz

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Take a chill pill glorydaz,

I'm not the least bit upset if that's what you're suggesting. She sounds like Anna... If it walks like a duck, it's a duck.



Yes,..."whatever one sows, that also he reaps",...but to say all victims of crimes DESERVED it, well....

Well..... I never once said that or even suggested it. It's akin to saying I'm in need of a chill pill. Figments of someone's imagination are not facts. Truth be told, they say more about the person with the imagination than they do what has actually occurred.
 

truthjourney

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I'm not the least bit upset if that's what you're suggesting. She sounds like Anna... If it walks like a duck, it's a duck.
Then you're not only making false accusations against me but also against Anna and against the person who you said snuck someone through the back door(one of the mods?). That's three people. Just let it go.
 

glorydaz

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Then you're not only making false accusations against me but also against Anna and against the person who you said snuck someone through the back door. That's three people. Just let it go.

Don't like it, huh? :)

You libs can dish it out but you can't take it. (If you don't want to be called a lib....stop acting like one). You have a lot of nerve accusing anyone of false accusations after the lies you've been telling. Even the excuse that you don't understand what we've been saying isn't a good enough excuse to take away the wrong you have done. The consequences of that behavior is that you've lost all credibility in the eyes of some of those who have seen clearly what is being said.
 

truthjourney

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Don't like it, huh? :)

You libs can dish it out but you can't take it. (If you don't want to be called a lib....stop acting like one). You have a lot of nerve accusing anyone of false accusations after the lies you've been telling. Even the excuse that you don't understand what we've been saying isn't a good enough excuse to take away the wrong you have done. The consequences of that behavior is that you've lost all credibility in the eyes of some of those who have seen clearly what is being said.
You can say whatever you want to about me. But don't be making false accusations against Anna or a mod who have nothing to do with anything I've said.
 
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