SaulToPaul 2
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She said Jesus was justified.
From what?
I was justified because I needed to be. I'm a sinner.
(I know the verse she is thinking of)
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She said Jesus was justified.
From what?
I was justified because I needed to be. I'm a sinner.
(I know the verse she is thinking of)
NewDay
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It was also the same covenant that the law was added to.
The old covenant.
The covenant that leads to death, because the law was later added.
That is why God made a NEW covenant with the house of Israel, and, the house of Judah...and, likewise it is a BETTER covenant, with BETTER promises, that gives life, and all the days of the lives of those who lived in the old covenant, in which we speak, their hearts were in the promise to come/the new covenant in Jesus shed blood.
.......They were in the old, in that they lived in the old covenant time, but their hearts were in the new, (the remnant that had faith).
They were NOT SAVED UNTIL THE SEED CAME, WHO IS JESUS CHRIST...AND, WHO IS THE ONLY WAY ANYONE CAN BE SAVED, BY AND THROUGH THE NEW COVENANT, THAT ALL THOSE OF FAITH LOOKED FORWARD TO, BUT COULD NOT ENTER, UNTIL THE SEED CAME.
We now enter by the same faith; but, we have the advantage that we do not have to wait...it is available now; salvation..and, has been available for over 2000 years to all nations...beginning with the jew first.
vs.
"I believe you all are just as saved as me."-NewScam
No such biblical concept of "just as saved." You winged that. Just like "man made apostacy."
Liar, ok, ill show the last one you just sent me - i cant send the others because i am not some psycho who would feel the need to keep some trolls pms.
Your latest pm entitled Hi - you sent it on July 22nd, 2012, 02:05 PM , to get me to open it i guess - and here is your pm text
NewDay said:
My so called "hateful comment" was the word liar because you keep posting to me while telling me you are ignoring me.
You pmed me before also about meshak a few times getting banned and being hateful to me because i kept telling you in that thread meshak deserved it and you kept posting garbage to me in meshaks thread and in pms about it all where you kept trying to get lighthouse banned - and pms to me before that on your other username unless you forgot.
I've never said a word in a rep about bybee or anyone else to you so if you state that i have, then you are a pathetic liar and i give full permission for knight or any other moderator to check your reps and find any comment by me that mentions bybee in your reps by me in any way.
Now stop pming me and actually place me on ignore like you keep saying you have liar. Here is where everyone can see your contention and the junk about meshak and where you told me i was on ignore over and over in this thread http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83845 and thats when you kept pming also and still are.
I do not know what your obsession with me is, but get over it already.
NewDay
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Wrong.
Justification is the full working of the Spirit.
Just like James explained...the 'body' without the Spirit is dead.
Therefore, faith without works is dead, also...because where the Spirit of the Lord is, there WILL be works. It is not possible for HIM NOT to work. Do you serve a Living, or a dead God? Does He work in you mightily, like He did Paul?
The spirit justifies:
1 Cor 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Even Jesus was justified in the Spirit, showing us the way:
1 Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
If you have not been justified in the Spirit; as Paul taught, you better wonder where the 'works' are coming from that Paul said 'God created you for.
I think you have been hoodwinked.
Justification in the SPIRIT is the WORK OF GOD; Don't deny He works in you, justifying your good works, so that you can be a Light to the world. It is the reason He saved you.
SO that He could LIVE IN YOU.
Does He live in you, or are you denying it?
HE work's, He just does NOT work by the law of moses.
NO one will EVER be justified through it; now go tell the madists how wrong they are for teaching such nonsense...that a man can do righteoussness through the law of moses. HOGWASH
Bait 'n Switch.
As asked numerous times: Chapter and verse where the LORD God demands I answer every and all questions addressed to me, especially from perverters, like yourself.
Raise the dead, per "the" gospel of Mt. 10 ff., Luke 9 ff.
"some man invented it"-NewScam
Provide us the God made infallible doctrine, you claim you have, or women's teachings, that you say we should follow.
I thought so, you deceiving troll-ette.
Wile E. Coyote
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You're confused Sis. It plainly says that God made the covenant with the animals too that He would not destroy every living thing again. How do you get the old covenant out of that?
NewDay
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Salvation is by grace. It was never on the basis of works of the law. It was always on the basis of works of the SPIRIT, THE SPIRIT IS GOD, NOT US.
The 'it' is salvation.
From the beginning, God was both the Author and Finisher of a man's faith....and, likewise it is HIM that does the works.
You are a liar. I called you a liar because you told me i was on ignore and you keep posting to me.
"I have never claimed I know everything..."-NewScam
So, you admit that you follow the teachings "of men?"
What women teachings should we follow? Yours?
"He is a immature liar."-NewScam
Translated:I, NewScam, never name call, but, since I'm an actress, I will call those MAD wackos "name callers."
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Shes lying right now, i posted her last pm to me and my response to her back was this:
Angel said:
Thats all i said to the liar, there was no conversation back and forth and i said that like that because i have told her several times before not to pm me again.
I believe you are saying that the works of the law do not merit salvation.
Did the law ever save? We both say no.
Then what was the purpose of the law? If faith came before the law, as I believe it did, then why should there be any law at all? How does God's law exist if it is not, or was not, to be observed?
I believe the law has a purpose in leading us to Christ.
If you are of faith, does that mean you obey God or does it mean you are disobedient?
Can a believer be caught in a tresspass? If the law doesn't apply, and sin is transgression of the law, does that mean we don't sin even if we are not of faith?
Things to think about.
I think you are trying to say that you do not perform the works of the Spirit.
Where can I learn about the works of the Spirit, and what they are?
"...such nitpickers..."-NewScam
NewDay
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Angel,
this all started because of this:
I had 'amened' a post from Bybee, shown here:
Newday:
To that post, where all I said was 'amen', I got this neg rep, with this response from you:
July 21st, 2012 05:57 PM Angel4Truth shes talking about people like you
You had no right to falsely claim that Bybee said that. That is what I would call being 'unecessariily disruptive'...and, you just lied, by claiming you never did it.
All I did was send Bybee a pm, and asking her if that statement was true, since you CHOSE to speak for her.
She sent me back a pm, telling me in so many words that she did not think that, at all.
I sent you a pm, telling you the above.
I will say it again. Why are you so hateful? Why do you feel you have to neg rep someone just for 'amening' someone else?
I never said you was not saved. I was plainly asking you a question..why you claim to be saved, and act so hateful.
It was a question.
Not a statement of fact.
If you want me to post every pm I have ever sent you, I have NO problem with it; I have NOTHING TO HIDE.
Likewise, why you make up stuff about me trying to get LH banned is silly.
I do not like LH 's theology, but, I have never tried to get him banned.
You are an immature child, that is need of growing up.
Learn that if you want to be on a message board, people are going to disagree with you, and even call what you believe LIES....it is done to me daily. I do not send people neg reps, and the like, I speak publically, or not at all..about how I feel about their theology.
I will pm someone to try to get something straightened out, but if it is not going anywhere, I cease trying.
You owe Bybee an apology, btw.
You're confused Sis. It plainly says that God made the covenant with the animals too that He would not destroy every living thing again. How do you get the old covenant out of that?
"The New Covenant is Matthew-Revelation."-NewScam
NewDay
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Yes, every work is from HIM.
The works of the Spirit are manifested in many ways....through, love, joy, peace, patience, longsuffering, kindness, etc..and, they all have ACTION planted alongside them. That action is what God saved us for, to be LIGHTs TO THE WORLD.
SO, they could see the works of God and rejoice.
Love will manifest in many ways....feeding the hungry, tending to the sick, joy will manifest in many ways, likewise. People SEE these actions, and they can rejoice that God is at work in His people and the world.
It is not about obtaining salvation, it is about WHY He saved us; to use our bodies as a LIVING sacrifice, to bring glory to God.
You are a complete moron. I said shes talking about PEOPLE LIKE you, meaning people like you are people who do this that she said -
I never said bybee was talking about you in specific there. Can you even understand what context is?
Shame on you, you lying snake. The other rep, which you DIDN'T post, just says LIAR over you claiming over and over you have ignored me.
PS - Oh and anyone can see the thread i linked earlier in this for themselves and see that you certainly DID try to get lighthouse banned, you are still lying, snake.
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