Liberals win: America to become Communist/Socialist
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His riches, indeed. Not your riches. Not your village's riches.
It takes a village--a village of easily-conditioned idiots--for thieving demagogues to have the power to succeed in the kinds of theft exploits advocated by envious parrots like yourself.
No wealth owner has any duty to folks like yourself, who're avowedly willing (and ever clamoring and looking for opportunities) to steal what he/she owns. Your avowed willingness to steal wealth from its owners precludes the owners of wealth from having any duty, whatsoever, to share with you any of the wealth they own.
Arthur Brain
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Well, no. I've been consistent where it comes to my cynicism where it comes to politics from any side of the spectrum. You, on the other hand, just seem to want to label anyone who has a bad word to say about Trump as a "Marxist" or some garbage.
I never claimed that reasoned, equitable arguments are cutting edge. Strange that you deem them as such.
Perhaps it'll jar you into critically analyzing your age-old refrain of avarice and greed. Or at least admiring it from others...as a virtue. :idunno:
Indeed!
Select passages from the Bible will confirm that for you. :idea:
Wrong question. Envy is the wrong emotion. I don't begrudge the successful, rather I have a disdain for blatant greed...be it sole-minded profiteering or small-minded, servile groveling at its methods. Concerning the latter...you (and others here) especially come to mind.
I don't.
Any other questions?
Show me your posts criticizing anyone on the left. I've never read a single post of yours that does that.
Your condemnation of me is pretty funny because I'd have to have been calling myself a ""Marxist" or some garbage" as I have criticized some of Trump's moves. I have pointed out where he has used the same deceitful algorithms for reporting economic numbers that Obama and the Democrats used. I have also spoken to how fragile our national economy is in reality when Trump has been saying how wonderful it is. A lot of the economic information I've pointed to has demonstrated the reality rather than the hype Trump uses, including the PCR interview that you called garbage because PCR has a stance on WWII and the Nazis that you don't like. You ignored all that truth because of your bias and prejudice. Your statement here proves you didn't even listen to the interview. You just condemned it out of hand. And then because you have done that with all the videos on economic subjects I've posted you say I never criticize Trump. Your bias and prejudice lie fully exposed.
The really ironic part of your condemnation of PCR is that the BBC is one of the largest antisemitic organizations on planet earth. Their biased and deceitful treatment of Israel and the BBC's blatant lying support of terrorists attacking Israel is incredible. If the Irish organizations like Sinn Fein had committed anywhere near the amount of terrorist acts against England that the Palestinian terrorists have against Israel you Brits would have wiped the entire nation of Ireland off the map. And I don't say that lightly but come from the point of view of the long history of Britain's criminal abuse of the Irish. Maybe you ought to read Leon Uris's Trinity series as his deeply researched Trinity series on the "Irish problem" is a great documentation of just how prejudiced you Brits really are.
Arthur Brain
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What part of "I'm cynical of politics from any side of the aisle" is tripping you up? In the UK, I'm no fan of the conservative party, at all. Then again I'm no fan of the labour party either as whoever's in power it all reduces down to the same thing. Election pledges that aren't kept, any economic downturn blamed on previous administration, long winded non answers to constituent concerns blah blah blah. I was no fan of Hilary Clinton in any shape of form and I've stated on this forum that America was short changed in the choice of candidates. Would I have preferred if Clinton had won instead of Trump? Yes but that's not saying much as a bus stop would make a better president than the current occupant of the WH...
Well, for a start, nobody condemned you, so it's not really that funny and you've been quick to label people like me a "socialist" and presume to know what I believe where it comes to politics with no foundation for it. If you're not above criticising Trump then good, so you should because he's not going tell the truth about economic concerns as that would get in the way of his narcissistic bloviating. I'm already aware of how the economy is fragile and I'm not in the habit of watching political YT videos on here as it is and certainly not long ones by holocaust deniers. As to the rest, Britain doesn't have a blameless history by any stretch and nor is the media completely unbiased, particularly the tabloid press. Your over the top, generalized notions or duly noted and filed accordingly.
drbrumley
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Your posts says otherwise....no more questions….
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Lon
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You aren't one, so why would I take advice from you concerning this? Read:
1 Corinthians 2:10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for,
“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”
But we have the mind of Christ.
You:
1) are 'a stranger and afraid in a world" you never made
lain:2) don't believe let alone grasp the above scriptures. You cannnot because you don't believe it nor want to.
So let's revisit: I'd have to think like you (not a Christian, but afraid of them and not liking the world of them by your own sig admission). You, not-a-Christian, nor liking them and with a LOT of prejudism against them, are trying to tell me what one is and does? A guy who uses his money on vices rather than giving sacrificially like I ALREADY do? Read: Matthew 21:28-32
Which brother are you? Which one am I?
Think long and hard and seriously before you cast the stone. James 1:22
You really need a reality check and always have. I cannot pull punches when you MUST face reality that you've ran from. You NEED a reality check. This does NOT eradicate my Christianity, it underscores it. YOU've chosen sides and against Christians and God, not me. Try not to act out because of the conflict then with this 'in name only' garbage. You are wrong. You don't GET to make that valuation being on the outside looking in with your nose on the window. John 15:18
Lon
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Love his heart. The one's who don't are the first to cast stones in their [un]righteous indignation. It makes no sense.
Lon
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Forced? :think: To whoever somebody else believes it should be bestowed? :think:
There are people living in tents at the park downtown. The foodbank where I've worked and help, travel there and give them hot meals, clothes, and whatever other help they can afford. The majority of these travel to the street corners with cardboard signs, many say they are 'hungry' when I just got through feeding them.
Point: There are true needs, and feigned needs. There are people who think that saying 'no' even just once isn't loving.
Here, we (them/me) greatly disagree. They don't think I'm loving because they are spoiled-brats, only-children given whatever they want without learning the value of the sacrifice. For them? True, their parents didn't have to sacrifice because they only had one. For me? Learn to wait my turn.
This in a nutshell is the problem and the problem of which is the more loving. I give to children more often because they haven't got to the point of crying wolf 20 times a day where the line between need and self-interested want is blurred. Yes, yes in fact, these would have money to rent a house (and some of them do) vs. buying vices. I've watched them often walk down the street and buy drugs or go into a store and buy alcohol.
I'm all for programs to get them off the street and do volunteer but I will not give my $ to those who don't want 'my kind of help.' Because I live in a democracy, I have 'some' freedom to use $ this way. When the State no longer serves capital interests, I'd lose that and my $ would go to whomever anybody else thinks is entitled, sadly, whether they are genuinely entitled. We all know there are people who rob and abuse the welfare system and who do not 'share' their unearned abundance after winning the proverbial lottery.
You sound like you've been poor. I've been. I never thought the next door neighbors owed me a living. Rather, I was always thankful if they gave it freely and of a good heart. I don't want $ grudgingly given. It causes problem
A reality check on what IS accomplished verse the 'ideal' is a good use of this thread.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
"generous to those in need"
"ready to share with others"
silly quip thinks that means the government :chuckle:
Well, given your self-serving approach to the issue it only makes sense that you would assume the same with mine. :idunno:
Though, I'm not basing this on my needs, I garner little on the redistribution of wealth (at least directly) I'm arguing to the need of the under/unrepresented, to egalitarianism. You?...to self-interest and the proliferation of greed.
It doesn't have to be.
I don't think that was his motivation. I'm pretty sure Lon realizes that Jesus didn't say "help those who deserve it", but instead told us to help those who need it.
And I'd be very surprised if he was unaware that Jesus said those who get accolades for helping others, have already gotten their reward.
I often disagree with Lon,but I think he has this one right. BTW, I had situation like that, recently, and I missed it:
Mrs. B and I were at a fried chicken place, eating lunch. There was this very seedy-looking character just sitting there, two tables away. He was young, in his 20s, small and skinny, dirty with dirty and ragged clothes, nursing a coke.
I didn't finish my meal, and was going to toss one piece of chicken, when he said, "if you aren't going to eat that, can I have it?"
He looked awful enough that I put off going to the restroom because I didn't want Mrs. B there without me. I handed him the plate and said "Sure. Take it."
Caught me off guard. Driving away, I realized that I should have gone back and bought him a meal. Maybe he didn't deserve it, and just begged when he could be working. But I realized that Jesus didn't say "feed the hungry, if they deserve it."
I just missed it that time.
Maybe, to be honest I don't know Lon.
But I know the type....the type that believes one must be morally deserving of their esteemed graciosity. If this is not Lon then it may be directed at the other.
Lon
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:nono: Not accolades and not bragging. I'm simply applying where the rubber meets the roads. The action is the thing and I'm a hypocrite if I don't share it, at least by the vision of the other such that the comment, while losing my proverbial crown, is not about the accolade at all. It is about a standard I expect of myself. The crown? At this point, I'm not concerned about "well done good and faithful servant" as I am about the doing of the thing: Meeting an actual need of another human being. Sentiment is fine, voting conscience is what we do, but where the rubber meets the road is always in the doing of the thing. I simply have to state, openly, I'm not a hypocrite. My money and sacrifice are indeed where my mouth is. If I get grief for seemingly 'bragging' or God opposed me for my pride, it is still a necessary evil. We simply don't talk about our charity because it seems to cheapen it, but I'd like to see more than ice buckets over the head on Facebook.
There comes a time, and I think appropriately in this thread (and others) where talk is cheap and so, bragging (not the intent, ever) or rather where action is taking place, I think needs to be talked about. In that, I know what I do with $ and I know what churches and organizations I support do to help as well.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Do you really think that because we have a great deal more murderers living in the United States, which is why we can't be on average as happy as countries who are blessed with fewer murderers, that somehow Americans are responsible for that? You hold it against Americans, that we have more murderers living here? You think that's our fault, that we deserve to not be as happy as those who live near the arctic circle? How is having more murderers our fault? Which box did I tick to cause more murder in the US than in many other liberal democracies? Why is this because of Americans?