Jesus is God? Or Jesus is begotten of God?

[God's Truth]

Total hogwash unsupported by scripture.

I guess that you think Jesus was always talking to Himself.

Jesus was talking to God the Father who is invisible and lives in unapproachable light.

 

[keypurr]

Your disagreement is with scripture, not with me. The Holy Spirit is not given through baptism, it is given through anointing which is what the Greek Christos means. Jesus of Nazareth is the Anointed One not the baptized One.

...God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit... (Acts 10:38 NKJV)​

I am not in disagreement with Acts 10:38, read it all, see the word power, the power of Christ came to him.

 

[Aimiel]

Neither. Jesus was neither God nor begotten of God. He was rather against the idolatry of comparing God with a man. (Deut. 4:15,16)

He is the Only Begotton Son of The Living God.

He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

And if He actually were against being worshipped as God, He would have rebuked Thomas when He worshipped Him...

Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Jesus is Lord and God. You just haven't been born again yet, so you cannot see Truth.

 

[jamie]

I am not in disagreement with Acts 10:38, read it all, see the word power, the power of Christ came to him.

God has given power to all of us.

For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. (2 Timothy 1:7 NKJV)​

 

[Omniskeptical]

Constantine introduced the Greek οὐσία meaning the same substance which the Father and the Son were.

They don't have the same existence. Constantine was a demon-deluded, drug-using emperor at best.

 

[Omniskeptical]

Neither. Jesus was neither God nor begotten of God. He was rather against the idolatry of comparing God with a man. (Deut. 4:15,16)

A miraculous birth is not idolatry. Making God to be a man or a man to be a God is.

 

[keypurr]

God has given power to all of us.

For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. (2 Timothy 1:7 NKJV)​

I can not walk on water or calm the wind, do you have that power?

 

[OCTOBER23]

God and Jesus are NOT the exact same being.

THERE ARE 2 GODS - THE FATHER AND JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE COMBINATION OF BOTH THEIR SPIRITS.:rapture:

 

[jamie]

I can not walk on water or calm the wind, do you have that power?

I've never needed to do that kind of stuff, but Peter walked on water.

God worked through the apostles as well as Jesus.

 

[keypurr]

I've never needed to do that kind of stuff, but Peter walked on water.



God worked through the apostles as well as Jesus.

But can you walk on water and calm the wind?

With enough faith we most likely could. Faith can move a mountain.

But can we?

 

[jamie]

But can we?

Did Jesus of Nazareth receive power through the Holy Spirit? Do we?

 

[Greg Jennings]

A miraculous birth is not idolatry. Making God to be a man or a man to be a God is.

I boldened the above sentence because it's exactly why Jews and Muslims see the worship of Christ as God idolatry

 

[Greg Jennings]

I've never needed to do that kind of stuff, but Peter walked on water.

Do you believe that you could if you were going to drown otherwise?

 

[Right Divider]

I boldened the above sentence because it's exactly why Jews and Muslims see the worship of Christ as God idolatry

They are wrong. It's just that simple.

 

[Greg Jennings]

They are wrong. It's just that simple.

That's your opinion. But unless you can offer some sort of proof then you should respect their opinions as well.

And no, the Bible isn't proof anymore than the Koran is. I trust you don't consider the Koran proof of anything?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I.e.
God can't destroy the earth with a flood. Why? He certainly has the ability. God can't destroy the earth again with a flood because He placed a self imposed limitation on His divine sovereignty

Do you have Scripture for that?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

God and Jesus are NOT the exact same being.

THERE ARE 2 GODS - THE FATHER AND JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE COMBINATION OF BOTH THEIR SPIRITS.:rapture:

Scripture??

 

[patrick jane]

Do you have Scripture for that?

Genesis 9:11 KJV - Genesis 9:11 NIV - Genesis 9:11

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

That's your opinion. But unless you can offer some sort of proof then you should respect their opinions as well.

And no, the Bible isn't proof anymore than the Koran is. I trust you don't consider the Koran proof of anything?

Since you reject Bible proof, what kind of proof are you looking for?

 

[Greg Jennings]

Since you reject Bible proof, what kind of proof are you looking for?

I only reject the Bible as proof because Christians reject any other holy book as proof. Does that make sense?

By proof I'm normally talking about tangible, measurable, real-world evidence.