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So you believe when you are about to die you will be like Stephen seeing Jesus at the right hand of the Father?
Jesus CANNOT be Jehovah/YHVH God
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So you believe when you are about to die you will be like Stephen seeing Jesus at the right hand of the Father?
genuineoriginal
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Where did you get that idea?
The Bible says we are to obey the people God puts in authority over us.
Romans 13:1-2 1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. |
The Bible says children are to obey their parents.
Ephesians 6:1 1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. |
The Bible says servants are to obey their masters.
Colossians 3:22 22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God; |
The Bible says people are to obey magistrates.
Titus 3:1 1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, |
genuineoriginal
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The problem with your statement is that the Bible does not show us that Jesus is God but often points out clearly that Jesus is the Son of God.
You have heard of the Bible, right?
oatmeal
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That is right , the throne of God AND the Lamb
Who are the TWO on that throne?
a. God and God
b. God and the Lamb
Why are there two listed?
a. because the third part of you God, the Holy Spirit is not good enough?
b. Because there are two separate entities involved, one being God and the other being the Lamb
There are two entities not one not three in one
Since your god is three in one, why isn't the Holy Spirit anywhere in sight of the throne?
His name is not "God" it is Joshua or in the Greek Jesus which means God is salvation or God is our savior
If you take his name to indicate that Jesus is God, then why don't you assume that Joshua of the OT is God also?
Why not? Because you are not consistent and prefer to privately interpret only the scriptures that you like
genuineoriginal
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The Father put Jesus in His throne with Him, and that proves that the Father is God and Jesus is not.
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The Bible does teach that God came to earth in the flesh as a man.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
You are the one who does that.
Jesus is the WORD of God and is God.
I give many scriptures proving it.
You deny all the scriptures that show that Jesus is God.
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God came as a man named Jesus. Of course Jesus as a man became a servant.
genuineoriginal
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Whether I see Jesus after I die or before, I will see Jesus standing or sitting at the right side of God.
Matthew 26:64 64 Jesus saith unto him, [JESUS]Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.[/JESUS] |
genuineoriginal
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No, the Bible teaches that God sent His Son.
The Greek says God was the Word, not the word was God.
Are you trying to make God a liar?
1 John 5:10 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. |
What is your opinion regarding that three of the gospel writers clearly tell us that Jesus died on Passover?
The Gospel of John tells us Jesus died a full 24 hours BEFORE Passover on the Day of Preparation.
And Noah, who in Genesis is said to have put animals into the Ark in pairs--male and female.
But in a subsequent chapter Noah supposedly put seven of each animal at a time...
Jesus said to his followers that “No sign will be given” but in one of the gospels he said a sign will be given.
Evidence of differing and sometimes opposite traditions are found all through the Bible. Unfortunately, when believers actually confront such facts and evidence in the text, they seem to be consumed by fear that this means their faith is in vain.
In the earliest gospel, Mark, Jesus is pronounced the Son of God at his baptism [You are my Son....”].
Matthew informs us that Jesus was said sto be the Son of God according to the Roman centurion.
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The Holy Spirit IS the Spirit of God. Jesus is the Spirit. There are three and the three are one and the same.
The Old Testament is full of prophecies about what was coming, about who was coming.
genuineoriginal
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Seven pairs of clean animals went into the ark, not seven individuals of each clean animal.
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Jesus is the Passover Lamb, whether or not it was on the exact day.
It is about clean and unclean animals, and it is two of the unclean.
The sign of Jonah was given. That's the sign Jesus said would be given.
That is not true.
The centurion was speaking of what he heard. How do you ever get it is a contradiction?
genuineoriginal
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Are you confused?
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genuineoriginal
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You believe that there are three and the three are one and the same.
How is that different from being a trinitarian?
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Trinitarians say there are three and that the three are separate and different.
I believe there are three and that the three are one and the same.
God the Father came to us as a son of man, and the Holy Spirit is God too.
genuineoriginal
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| modalism THEOLOGY: the doctrine that the persons of the Trinity represent only three modes or aspects of the divine revelation, not distinct and coexisting persons in the divine nature. |
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From what I have heard about modalism is that they do not exist at the same time. I do not believe like that.
As for you trying to pin a label on me, it doesn't change the truth that there are three and that the three are one and the same.
Did some trinitarian teach you about modalism and call it heretical?
genuineoriginal
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You don't like Modalism?
Here are a couple of others labels for you to try on:
| Patripassianism Belief that the Father and Son are not two distinct persons, and thus God the Father suffered on the cross as Jesus. |
| Sabellianism Belief that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three characterizations of one God, rather than three distinct "persons" in one God. |
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