Jason0047
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Believers can understand God's Omni-Righteousness. How so? Well, the Scriptures say that believers can know God's Judgments because God teaches it to them,
Psalm 119:102
"I have not departed from thy judgments: for thou hast taught me."
Yet, you are saying we cannot know the truth on God's righteousness. However, the Scriptures say that a believer will be guided into ALL truth,
John 16:13
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come." (cf. John 16:14 KJV, John 16:15 KJV,).
For we are to be made into the image of Christ's likeness. Meaning, we are to behave like Jesus and His righteousness. So if we are to behave like Jesus in His judgments, then surely you would agree that a country or state should endorse the unending torture of people who commit a finite amount of crimes, too? Right? For the powers that be are put in place by God; And anyone who resists the Law of a nation is rebelling against God (Unless that Law conflicts with the Laws of God's Word) (Romans 13:1, 2, 3). So let's say a person steals a loaf of bread and goes 10 miles over the speed limit and throws a piece of trash out the window. This person's fine would be unending horrible torture for the rest of their life (And that would be a just punishment because God will supposedly do the same to all wicked (unrepentant Law breakers) in the afterlife). However, does that sound like a fair punishment for this person's crimes? What if this person did a bunch of horrible things within their life time? Do you think a country should torture a person as long as they live (even if they did a bunch of horrible things)? Would you like to live in a country that had such penal system? Wouldn't their sense of justice be more in line with God's justice as you see it? In other words, if you are all for eternal torture for a finite amount of crimes, then you would not hesitate at the idea in moving to a country that had this kind of punishment because it lines up with God's version of punishment.
If I am understanding you correctly here: You are basically trying to say that we can't know God's judgments because we are sinful and unable to judge others because we all stand guilty before God. However, nothing could be further from the truth, though.
First, a true believer who is born again spiritually has repented of their sins and accepted Jesus as their Savior. This means that they have admitted their sins before God and they have turned from them. If they slip up into sin or if they are struggling with a particular sin, then they will confess that sin so as to be cleansed of all unrighteousness and the Lord will help them to stop (If they truly want to live for the Lord). In other words, a true believer does not stay down in the mud of sin like unbelievers. James 2:10 KJV is in context of not having a respect of persons and in being obedient to God's Laws by loving your neighbor (See James 2:1 KJV, James 2:2 KJV, James 2:3 KJV, James 2:4 KJV, James 2:5 KJV, James 2:6 KJV, James 2:7 KJV, James 2:8 KJV, James 2:9 KJV).
Second, the Scriptures say we can Judge righteously.
John 7:24
"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
In fact, 1st Corinthians says we shall judge the world and angels and that we are allowed to judge matters internally within the church (1 Corinthians 6:1 KJV, 1 Corinthians 6:2 KJV, 1 Corinthians 6:3 KJV, 1 Corinthians 6:4 KJV, 1 Corinthians 6:5 KJV, 1 Corinthians 6:6 KJV).
So should somebody commit suicide because they believe Romans 12:1 says that we are to be a living sacrifice? No, of course not. And why not? Because we know that such a thing is wrong. But yet, with your theological interpretation of Scripture, this person could ignore the morality of a situation and they could kill themselves because they believe they are obeying the Word of God. In other words, what you believe is no different. You just believe your wrong view of Scripture and you don't need any moral reason to explain God's judgment as being just or right. You are basically trying to say that God's judgments are unknowable because we are sinful beings. However, if a person is a true believer, they would be walking uprightly with the Lord and they will be guided into all truth by the Spirit so as to know and defend God's judgments in light of His righteousness or holiness.
In fact, God's goodness can be seen from cover to cover within our Bibles, too. For God does not change. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So if the Lord is going to torture someone in the future forever and ever, then we have to see this type of behavior in God at some other place within His Word, too. However, we do not see anything in God's Word that would even remotely suggest such a dark thing, though. For God judges fairly. He is not going to punish people beyond what the actual crime requires. In other words, believing in the ECT (Eternal Conscious Torment) version of God makes Him out to be a monster and not as the good God that we have come to know who is fair and just in all His judgments.
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