There are a lot of reasons to not vote for Trump. Nobody can put all of them into one post.
Being a loudmouth bullying misogynistic adulterer is a very good reason to not vote for Trump, and Chrys included "promotes hatred" as one of the reasons.
I will not vote for trump
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There are a lot of reasons to not vote for Trump. Nobody can put all of them into one post.
Being a loudmouth bullying misogynistic adulterer is a very good reason to not vote for Trump, and Chrys included "promotes hatred" as one of the reasons.
The primary is coming up next in my state. I would vote for Kasich if he had any way to become the candidate, but it is mathematically impossible so I don't know why he hasn't already dropped out. I have nothing against Kasich, other than he only seems to be in the race to help the Trump/Clinton team.
Cruz has the best chance of beating Clinton, but first he has to beat Trump. Trump has no chance of beating Clinton. The democrats who are voting for him in the republican primaries are not going to vote for him in November. They'll vote for a democrat.
Pretty much the deal, I can't count on one hand anything productive the man has done.
How about bamboozling millions of primary voters? :think:
annabenedetti
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He hasn't dropped out because he still has a message to deliver and a campaign to run. He's said he absolutely wouldn't be Trump's running mate if asked, and that Trump's biggest assist has come from the media, and I certainly agree with that. If you wonder who drives elections, consider the media.
annabenedetti
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At least I got your reasons for not answering me, and they didn't come from Google. And I understand, because I often don't have the time or inclination to answer questions, so fair enough.
Here's why I was
When I came to TOL, it was right after the 2008 elections. January 2009, the first month of Obama's presidency. I was a strong conservative, politically, socially, religiously. Republican, pro-life, talk radio, right wing message boards, everything, you name it. I was swimming in confirmation bias and I didn't know it.
I'm very, very familiar with the way conservatives talk and think, and I know that a lot of them (I'm sure this happens on the far left also) simply repeat the same tropes over and over again without questioning them, and for months and months through that 2008 primary season I heard about how Obama was going to destroy America. The photo of him sitting on the couch smoking... remember how often that was posted? His connection to Ayers. Chicago. His birth certificate. His college records. Whether he even deserved to be there. Who wrote his book. On and on.
So I've been at TOL since Obama's inauguration, and watching similar here - and yet, eight years later and no sign of Obama taking that "third term" they were talking about. Remember that? Obama was going to make use of those FEMA camps, and call out the national guard, and take a third term by force. Except he didn't.
I was hoping you could give me an idea of how you came to believe Obama had done everything possible to destroy America. Because if he really had done what you say, he didn't do a very good job of destroying us. That's what checks and balances are for. And if he really wasn't, I hope you'll consider why he didn't, and how he couldn't even if he did what a lot of people actually wanted him to do, just so they could justify why they hate him so much. It'll take time to look back on his presidency and view it without the fog of current events and high emotion, but I suspect that like most presidents, he did some good and some bad and a lot of mediocre, and a lot of the mediocre has to do with the house and senate a president has to work with. Talk about doing damage.... look to Congress.
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-you blame republicans
-even though obama has been president for over seven years
-even though the democrats controlled the senate five of those years
-even thought the democrats controlled everything two of those years
-what did you expect the republicans to do?
-shut down the government?
-what would that have accomplished?
-and now you expect to beat hillary with trump?
-you are truly idiots
-it will have to get worse
-and you will have to look for another savior
-you blame republicans
-even though obama has been president for over seven years
-even though the democrats controlled the senate five of those years
-even thought the democrats controlled everything two of those years
-what did you expect the republicans to do?
-shut down the government?
-what would that have accomplished?
-and now you expect to beat hillary with trump?
-you are truly idiots
-it will have to get worse
-and you will have to look for another savior
Nah...That won't happen because people like you are party traitors and can't see that the only way to stop abortion is to vote Republican't.
At least.
So maybe the only thing consistent, ultimately, about chrys is his inconsistency when it suits him coupled with an inability to take ownership of it.
Those aren't the same. On one hand you have people voting for Republicans for their own hateful reasons. On the other hand you have a Republican candidate running on a campaign of hate (allegedly). chrys wants you to vote R regardless of the reasons. He doesn't want candidates to run based on hate. People seeing hate and supporting it or thinking you're the closest to it is different from someone actually running on it.
Which response? I'm glad to clarify, as soon as I understand what you're looking for.
Here's the exchange....
rocketman: Better a few good posts from him than a lifetime on TOL endlessly posting "Vote Republican" and then becoming a turncoat when the nominee doesn't fit your personal political framework. Face it, the RINO/Wig party is finished, killed by their own hand, they have destroyed their own party through cronyism, and ignoring their voting base. They deserve Donald Trump if he becomes the nominee which is looking increasingly likely.
you: In chrys' defense, maybe he never thought it possible that there could be so many GOP voters willing to choose party over principle.
me: Is that what you think Trump supporters are doing?
you: The ones who will vote for Trump if he's the nominee, all the while saying he wasn't really their first choice, they would've voted for Cruz, or Carson, yada yada yada - Yes, that's what I believe.
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After going over it more I think I know what you are saying. However I still am unsure if I agree. You're saying that chrys is going with principle over party, whereas there are a lot of people who are willing to go party over principle by voting for Trump despite not wanting him. But, couldn't others have said the same thing to chrys before when he wanted everyone to vote Republican? People were just using different principles. :idunno:
I was a Trump supporter from the start, my post history can easily prove that all the way from when I first joined.
Hes probably going to win
And
I've made fun of all the Trump haters along the way
I also reported that people are wasting their time with the other nominees, denying the inevitable
It's a fair point. I'd respond by saying that Chrys wants you to help him destroy the Democratic party and to advance the Republican party because of its stand on abortion. He's stated that in the past repeatedly and dismissed those who have taken exception to a particular candidate for the White House based on his party-first notion. That same notion is indifferent to the hatred of the voter. Why should it be sensitive to the disposition of the candidate, outside of the plank/issue and result?
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There's nothing foolish about having religious convictions that oppose abortion. This fight will go on, regardless of your opinion. Many would call you the fool.
You seem to represent the "Nit-Wits" of the world? Is it possible for you to travel around this great country of ours and make some "numskull speeches?"
-what we have here is a failure to communicate
-is that why you are talking to yourself?
-reason and logic demands it
-so what is this all about?
-trump
-they are making it about you
-I am encouraged by your insight
-why shouldn't it be about you?
-I am making an exception
-and trump is an exception
-no one can disagree with that
-you forget there are a lot of idiots here
-do you have to call them that?
-they love insults
-is that why you are talking to yourself?
-reason and logic demands it
-so what is this all about?
-trump
-they are making it about you
-I am encouraged by your insight
-why shouldn't it be about you?
-I am making an exception
-and trump is an exception
-no one can disagree with that
-you forget there are a lot of idiots here
-do you have to call them that?
-they love insults
