Does that mean your claiming that there were no "kingdom" believers in the first century?
Stam said the "kingdom" believers of the first century became "body" believers.
Please clarify?
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Does that mean your claiming that there were no "kingdom" believers in the first century?
Stam said the "kingdom" believers of the first century became "body" believers.
Please clarify?
Did our hero defend his own assertion, provide an argument? Negatory.
Again--
You made an assertion:
"Peter and Paul preached the SAME gospel. 2 Peter 3:15 (NIV)"-you
Therefore, I asked you, twice, in defense of this assertion, to defend it, i.e., provide argument-"reasons for a conclusion:"
Did Judas preach this "the SAME gospel?"
It's a yes/no, simple question.
And stuff your "I'll try to humor you and say no," and answer "yes," or "no," in defense of your "argument," not to craftily(Gen. 3) dismiss my challenge to your argument. That is how an honest person, on debating issues, acts.
If it is "no," then you must agree that there is more than one piece of good news/gospel in the book, and this "the SAME gospel" is a farce, or, you are clueless as to the meaning of the word "gospel."
Which is it?
And lay out the content of the gospel Judas preached-specifics, chapter/verse-not generalities.
So was Josephus, one of those teachers of yours, that taught you this "AD 70-ism" invention," whom you quote on every thread, in which you "participate"/spam, clown Craigie.
Jerry Shugart
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At one time, before the Body of Christ came into existence, the destiny of which the Jewish believers were aware was having a place in the earthly kingdom. So the Jews who believed before the Body of Christ could be called "kingdom" believers.
The Jewish believers before the Body of Christ came into existence could be called "kingdom" believers and later they became members of the Body of Christ.
NOT what I asked, but as usual people of your ilk equivocate about the truth of it.
Your opinion is well noted but now show us where in scripture it says we don't sin. I have given you scripture that shows we do.
I note with interest, yo9ur own contradictory response.
My PLEASURE, but the IQ card is about the most desperate ploy anyone can use on ANY forum, even TOL.
You're the one REACTING to the heat GM. Seems you are so full of yourself there is no room for ANYTHING else, including God.
So how do you account for the Biblical contradictions?
Baiting tactic 101 Start with the words "please clarify"
"So I can then pounce all over you with my ready made answers towards my - only I am right agenda."
That's rich; you baiting your fellow baiter.
The Jerry-at-tricks are at it again - take no prisoners - not even each other...
What characters you and Jerry are...
It's called an AVATAR, and yes it does, it's actually me, unlike the clown in your avatar that shows who you really are in everything but your face.
:loser:
God's Truth
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There are people here who preach repent means merely to believe God and that we do not have to repent from sins, and that we cannot stop sinning.
Then there are the other people who say that too, except that they claim we can say we do not sin even if we do.
But what does Jesus say?
Jesus says we have to repent of sins to be saved and to stay saved.
That is the Word of God!
Then there are the other people who say that too, except that they claim we can say we do not sin even if we do.
But what does Jesus say?
Jesus says we have to repent of sins to be saved and to stay saved.
That is the Word of God!
That's quite a different position then most MADists around here.
God's Truth
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Why all the fighting?
Why can't we all be likeminded?
Jesus says to believe and repent.
That is the Way.
We can and must obey.
Why can't we all be likeminded?
Jesus says to believe and repent.
That is the Way.
We can and must obey.
Give me a break GT...first this is your doing because of YOUR self righteousness, and second, this is TOL.
God's Truth
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Where do you get this?
Jesus taught the New Covenant and shed his blood for it.
The teachings of Jesus are the guidelines for the New Covenant, and the shedding of his blood is the blood of the New Covenant.
God's Truth
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I gave up doing things my way and started doing things JESUS' WAY.
Why don't you understand that is what you are to do too?
You are as an ensnared person who cannot see what is said, and cannot hear what is said.
(This is fun.)
Here is a straw for your straw man argument... "Just as OT saints became Kingdom saints when the Kingdom was being preached at hand..."
See, Jerry; you are not Dispensational; you only read in a book that you are.
What you still are is Reformed.... with their "one dispensation unfolding into another..."
Yours is Acts Two's remaining Covenant Theology errors...
There is no Heavenly Purpose/Aspect in your supposed "Mid-Acts Dispensationalism," you dinosaur.
But, one way or another, you, Jerry, alone, will get that camel through that needle - the grease of coercion and baiting ever at the ready.