He would let me in.
How about you?
Give me your tired, poor, huddled masses
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How about you?
All of it or just the Islamic version?
gcthomas
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Should we also ban diocesan tribunals and rabbinical courts? If not, why not?
All of sharia law is Islamic.
As a law for the USA?
Of course.
gcthomas
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The use of sharia courts wouldn't supersede US law, in the same way that diocesan courts work within US legal structures.
I really don't know what you are worried about.
I really don't know why you like sharia law so much.
gcthomas
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I don't particularly like it at all, but you can't tell me why you would want it banned. It wouldn't affect you, especially as one of the sharia laws prevents then from applying to non-Muslims.
Well, why not?
gcthomas
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I'd prefer no religious involvement in civil society. You still haven't said what you object to about it. Is it just a gut instinct against those foreign looking Muslims?
Yes I have.
ClimateSanity
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Sharia law permits the stoning of women for adultery. If a prostitute found herself in a Sharia governed neighborhood, men would be permitted to stone her to death. If American courts dared to sentence these men, there would be uncontrollable rioting in the streets and acts of terror until their men were released from prison.
ClimateSanity
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Also, allowing one set of Americans to be governed by a different set of laws creates a segregated society. This is the opposite of assimilation. You are creating the conditions for one section of the country to be at war against other sections of the country.
gcthomas
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Dou mean this?
Hmm.
Stoning almost never happens, even in countries where it is legal. Body covering clothes are a Saudi Arabian social rule, and not a sharia law, and as such are not required in most Muslim nations. Rapes are not sharia, either. They are ignorant, rural, cultural behaviours.
And, as I said, Sharia does not itself apply to non-Muslims, that is one of the Sharia Laws, even if some countries do have strict national statutes that go beyond Sharia requirements. And since stoning, rape and mutilation would remain illegal in the US, even if sharia courts were being uses to mediate divorces etc, they would not be permitted.
So, is that your entire objection? It seems to be the result of fear and misunderstanding, rather than a real issue with Sharia courts as they are actually practised in western countries by western Muslims.
ClimateSanity
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Here is the point of assimilation when it comes to immigration: Is it better for society as a whole if we have a nation of various people who are Americans first and their sub culture second ? Or, do we want a nation of disparate peoples whose main allegiance is to their sub culture and country of origin and who happen to live here as Americans for the sole purpose of the lifestyle and prosperity it affords?
I say the latter is a recipe for disaster.
I say the latter is a recipe for disaster.
YES!
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
How much are you calling "almost never"???????
Yes it is!
A husband is allowed to rape his wife, and any servant or slave he possesses.
They can have acid thrown in their face, cut up, beaten, etc.
We see this sort of things reported all the time, and that's just what has been REPORTED.
YES it does!
One can be killed or maimed for associating with an non-muslim or wanting to become a non-muslim.
No, it is not my ENTIRE objection to it.
It would take a book to list all my objections to it.
It's a filthy, barbaric, non-biblical way of life, and most in the USA want nothing to do with it.
And they have plenty of good reasons to reject it.
Atta boy!
Don't let these naive people sway you that sharia law is "not so bad".
It's BAD!
gcthomas
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This is the crux of it — you can't stand having culturally or racially different people treated as Americans with the traditional American religious freedoms that you value so highly.
Your objections are to the behaviours of people in other countries, not of American or European Muslims. You just don't want people to have the religious freedoms that you value so much.
glassjester
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I'll put in a good word for ya.