Child Prostitution 3rd Largest Organized Crime

[Tinark]

Then you're going to enjoy the next segment in the "Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!"thread, I'll be talking about gay pride parades and festivals where children are exposed to every sexual perversion imaginable.

No studies, no statistics, just good old fashioned reality.

A child seeing a gay pride parade isn't child abuse except in your own twisted mind. If a parent doesn't want their child "exposed" to the parade, it is a simple matter of not attending or going in the area when it is in progress.

I know how much you hate freedom of speech and the first amendment. I suggest moving to Uganda, they have the type of Christian folk I know you'll get along quite well with and the kind of laws you wish to live under.

 

[Nick M]

Shut up.

Why should he?

 

[Nick M]

A child seeing a gay pride parade isn't child abuse except in your own twisted mind.

You are a hell bound heathen. And sexually perverted.

 

[fool]

:idunno: Beats me. He and his minions have been very quiet lately.


:think: I'll bet they're up to something.

We're building a catapault.
Cause we thought that would be fun.
We're not going to shoot real cats out of it though cause that would be cruel.

 

[fool]

Let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant:



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/rate-of-child-sexual-abuse-on-the-decline.html?_r=0

Let me guess, lies and fake data made up by the left?

The chicken little religious right wingers are losing the argument on every front. You are simply wrong about the facts of reality. And its no surprise, considering you base your worldview exclusively on your fringe intrepretation of the writings of some ignorant bronze age men.

Cool yer jets bro we're just talking here.
Naz is refering to traffiking, your article refers to substaniated reports of abuse, trafficed kids don't get to report things they get put on a drug dependency and sex treadmill that ends in a shallow grave.

Do we really have to have that Left wing Right wing stuff in this of all threads? I'm glad the reported cases have droped but that in no way speaks to the underground.
I think we can all agree that ANY amount of this is intolerable.

 

[fool]

If you keep bringing facts into the discussion, people are going to start calling you a liar.

What facts?
Please see post #25.

 

[The Barbarian]

What facts?
Please see post #25.

I think citing the fact that the more vigorous enforcement that so annoys Connie, is actually bringing down the number of such crimes, is pertinent.

Don't you?

 

[LKmommy]

Let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/rate-of-child-sexual-abuse-on-the-decline.html?_r=0

Let me guess, lies and fake data made up by the left?

The chicken little religious right wingers are losing the argument on every front. You are simply wrong about the facts of reality. And its no surprise, considering you base your worldview exclusively on your fringe intrepretation of the writings of some ignorant bronze age men.

It is not that it is false data but what you cherry picked out of it to support your line of thinking.

The article also states:The precise reasons for the declining rates are not clear. Dr. Finkelhor noted that most types of crime have plummeted over the last 20 years. But at least some of the decline, he believes, has resulted from greater public awareness, stepped-up prevention efforts, better training and education, specialized policing, the presence in many cities of child advocacy centers that offer a coordinated response to abuse, and the deterrence afforded by the prosecutions of offenders.

Though the decline is now widely accepted among researchers and many advocates, some are still skeptical.

Dr. John M. Leventhal, a professor of pediatrics and the director of the child abuse program at Yale New Haven Children’s Hospital, says that the number of cases his clinic sees has gone down, from more than 400 a year to about 350. He does not dispute a decline, but he suggested that changes in how child protection agencies classify cases could be contributing to the decrease.

Dr. Finkelhor, however, said those changes took place after the biggest declines in the 1990s.


To point to Pennsylvania and say it is "evident" that changes are taking place all over is a JOKE. How long did it all stay "covered up" when professionals/mandated reporters tried to keep it under the rug?

The article said some are skeptical of the decline and I am one of them.

 

[LKmommy]

Cool yer jets bro we're just talking here.
Naz is refering to traffiking, your article refers to substaniated reports of abuse, trafficed kids don't get to report things they get put on a drug dependency and sex treadmill that ends in a shallow grave.
Do we really have to have that Left wing Right wing stuff in this of all threads? I'm glad the reported cases have droped but that in no way speaks to the underground.
I think we can all agree that ANY amount of this is intolerable.

:thumb:

 

[Nick M]

Do we really have to have that Left wing Right wing stuff in this of all threads.

All political threads are about right/wrong = right/left. It is those who want right against those that are twisted and evil.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Then you're going to enjoy the next segment in the "Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!"thread, I'll be talking about gay pride parades and festivals where children are exposed to every sexual perversion imaginable.

No studies, no statistics, just good old fashioned reality.

A child seeing a gay pride parade isn't child abuse except in your own twisted mind.

Like many that defend sexual perversion, you don't understand how children are "groomed" to accept it, thus gay pride parades being just that.

In essence, taking a child to a gay pride parade would be the same as sitting with him or her watching a pornographic movie. Is that not "twisted" in your atheist/moral relativist mind either Tinark?

If a parent doesn't want their child "exposed" to the parade, it is a simple matter of not attending or going in the area when it is in progress.

We've heard that left-wing mantra for decades now:

"If you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one!". Another homosexualist like yourself advised those that have children in scouting who don't want to them to go on overnight outings with homosexuals if they were allowed into the Boy Scouts, just not to go.

Since when do decent people in society have to take a back seat to the supposed "rights" of perverts?

I know how much you hate freedom of speech and the first amendment. I suggest moving to Uganda, they have the type of Christian folk I know you'll get along quite well with and the kind of laws you wish to live under.

Why don't you go to the perverts paradise, Sweden, where kiddy porn was once legal and all kinds of sexual perversion is embraced?

It sounds more to your living standards than a Biblically based constitutional republic such as ours.

 

[resurrected]

I think citing the fact that the more vigorous enforcement that so annoys Connie, is actually bringing down the number of such crimes, is pertinent.

Don't you?

Does it give you some form of perverse satisfaction to believe that you have annoyed aSC?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Here's an example of what our country has become; I didn't have to search this article out on the internet, I saw it between posts here on TOL:

Former Teacher Of The Year Accepts Plea In Teen Sex Case
http://westorange.patch.com/article...patch&ncid=edlinkuspatc00000006#photo-5933734

Perverts like the Barbarian are very happy that this person was caught and brought to justice, people of decency are sad that it ever happened.

 

[Tinark]

Cool yer jets bro we're just talking here.
Naz is refering to traffiking, your article refers to substaniated reports of abuse, trafficed kids don't get to report things they get put on a drug dependency and sex treadmill that ends in a shallow grave.

Do we really have to have that Left wing Right wing stuff in this of all threads? I'm glad the reported cases have droped but that in no way speaks to the underground.
I think we can all agree that ANY amount of this is intolerable.

Have we been reading the same thread? A bunch of the fundies here are saying that sexual perversion, including pedophilia, has skyrocketed and is becoming acceptable because of society's tolerance of homosexuality, pornography, premarital sex, etc.

They are basing their perceptions of society on a bronze age book, which they believe tells them that society will decay and crimes will run rampant if we defy the guidelines it sets out regarding sex. In fact, we see the exact opposite. Rape is down, child abuse is down, child sex abuse is down, crime in general has dropped 30-50% across the board in the last 35 years. It's not surprising that a bunch of ignorant bronze age men would get things like that wrong.

 

[resurrected]

Have we been reading the same thread? A bunch of the fundies here are saying that sexual perversion, including pedophilia, has skyrocketed and is becoming acceptable because of society's tolerance of homosexuality, pornography, premarital sex, etc.

They are basing their perceptions of society on a bronze age book, which they believe tells them that society will decay and crimes will run rampant if we defy the guidelines it sets out regarding sex. In fact, we see the exact opposite. Rape is down, child abuse is down, child sex abuse is down, crime in general has dropped 30-50% across the board in the last 35 years. It's not surprising that a bunch of ignorant bronze age men would get things like that wrong.

Tin - what's the title of the thread?

 

[Tinark]

Tin - what's the title of the thread?

Child prostitution rates are *DOWN* res. Therefore, society's tolerance of homosexuality and other consentual arrangements among adults, as well as pornography use and availability, has NOTHING to do with child prostitution as people were claiming. That was my only point.

This isn't to say that sex crimes against children isn't still a problem, just that the fundies here are completely misdiagnosing the problem as having anything whatsoever to do with relaxed attitudes/tolerance regarding non-biblically prescribed sexual arrangements.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Child prostitution rates are *DOWN* res. Therefore, society's tolorance of homosexuality and other consentual arrangements among adults, as well as pornography use and availability, has NOTHING to do with child prostitution as people were claiming. That was my only point.

This isn't to say that it isn't still a problem, just that the fundies here are completely misdiagnosing the problem as having anything whatsoever to do with relaxed attitudes regarding non-biblical sex.

Since relaxed sexual sin laws and societal attitudes towards those sins "isn't the problem", why don't you "diagnose" what the real problem is when it comes to child prostitution, which you point out is still a problem.

 

[Delmar]

In essence The Barbarian has no problem with a huge out of control fire, in fact he has no problem with people pouring gasoline on it while it's burning, he's just glad that a Fire Department is available to respond after the damage is done.

I don't believe that is true. The Barbarian is a flaming liberal and he and I disagree on a great many things but, accusing him of being unsympathetic to girls who are forced to be sex slaves is something I won't tolerate without evidence.

 

[xAvarice]

Good thread Naz. You might want to next talk about the muti billion dollar pornography business, as it's been proven that one often times leads to the other.

While we're on the subject, gee, look what the United Nations is up to:

U.N. legalizes child porn, prostitution
http://www.wnd.com/2010/09/198989/

Have you ever read an article not written by someone you agree with?

Edit: I just noticed Delmar's comment below me, and I respect him (not for stating the obvious) but for actually interjecting just to dispel your ridiculous and offensive comments - people who have evidence don't need to resort to such stupid behaviour.

 

[resurrected]

aCW asks:

What good are laws if we have a culture that promotes out of wedlock sex, pornography and a "if it feels good, do it" mentality?

barbie responds:

They allow the police, FBI, etc. to arrest people who abuse children by passing child porn around on the net, and so on. It also gives them the tools to locate and crush pedophile rings who pass kids around like toys. Didn't used to be that way. I figure it's a good thing. We'll just have to disagree on that.

barbie is implying that aCW doesn't agree that it's a good thing that authorities can stop pedophiles.

I don't believe that is true. The Barbarian is a flaming liberal and he and I disagree on a great many things but, accusing him of being unsympathetic to girls who are forced to be sex slaves is something I won't tolerate without evidence.

are you going to confront barbie too?