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  1. Clete

    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    God definitely spoke the universe into being but no word can be spoken without the thought that produced it coming first. The thought it primary. Further, the word used in John 1 is NOT the Greek word for the single English term, "word". It is simply an incorrect translation into English. The...
  2. Clete

    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    Saying it doesn't make it so, Nick. Your OP is still right there for the whole world to read. There is no explanation of what Jesus meant nor how to use what He said as a test anywhere in that post. If you explained it elsewhere, please just give me the post number and I'll read it.
  3. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    So let's kind of focus this discussion a bit. You say that you don't use the terms that name the omni-doctrines the way the Greeks (and Augustine and Calvin) did. If so, then just how do you use them? Just what is it that you mean when you say that God is omni-this or omni-that? Can you...
  4. Clete

    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    Oh, how I wish more Christians understood this amazing truth!
  5. Clete

    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    So, I've not read the thread but can see that Right Divider is participating and so am VERY confident that this point has already been made, but here goes nothing..... Christians today are not born again, they are new creations. Same thing? No, not really. In some contexts they could be...
  6. Clete

    Understanding God’s election

    It really is true that one of the most important premises upon which Open Theism is based is the practice of letting the bible say what it actually says and then formulating our doctrine on that. Everyone else does it the other way around, to one degree or another.
  7. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    Samuel’s warnings didn’t specifically highlight the importance of the king’s obedience to God, rather Samuel predicted a king would oppress the Israelites (i.e. taking their sons, daughters, land, and wealth for his own benefit). Saul’s failures, however, were not about widespread exploitation...
  8. Clete

    Understanding God’s election

    The simplest answer is because they've convinced themselves that a God who can change at all isn't God. Their entire system flows logically from that single premise. In their minds, if everything isn't predestined, there is no God. That's a pretty tough wall to get over.
  9. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    What information are you talking about? How do you know this? Is a spirit a "program"? That doesn't mean we're anything like a computer program. It seems to me that just about the only thing we have in common with any sort of computer is that our basic biology functions via a language based...
  10. Clete

    Understanding God’s election

    I mostly agree. Lots of people who get saved hobble their spiritual growth by thinking that they have to follow a bunch of rules to grow their relationship with God and to maintain it. These folks can get quite self-righteous to the point of being obnoxiously legalistic. Church of Christ folks...
  11. Clete

    Understanding God’s election

    There are lots of Calvinists that I'd have to agree with you who have believed a false gospel. A fairly large percentage of Calvinists who show up on web forums such as this definitely fall into that category but I don't think it's safe to say that the average pew sitting Christian at a...
  12. Clete

    Understanding God’s election

    I understand your point and am telling you that it doesn't follow. Who raised the dead other that God Himself? Who is Jesus other than God Himself? Further, Jesus Himself stated "“Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” Who is the "I" in that sentence other than Jesus...
  13. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    You are talented at taking what is said and interpreting it in some ridiculously extreme way. I wasn't within a thousand miles of suggesting that we should attempt to be some version of Mr. Spock. There is a time and a place for emotion. Formulating one's doctrine is not one of them. Premise 1...
  14. Clete

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Not sure that follows. Do not angels have the ability to interact with the physical?
  15. Clete

    Unable to Believe the “Foolish” Gospel

    It doesn't. You do reject God but have demonstrated an ability to understand the truth as presented in God's word and by doing so testify against yourself.
  16. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    I recommend guarding against rejecting a proposition based on your emotional reactions rather than a dispassionate analysis of what is actually being said. Such emotionalism is the purview of women and children. The open view is about being two things.... 1. Strictly biblical. 2. Strictly...
  17. Clete

    Understanding God’s election

    The disciples didn't even understand that He was going to rise from the dead! Jesus told them as much but they didn't get it. They didn't even believe that He was going to die, much less rise from the dead and to whatever extent they might have been hopeful of such an eventuality, they didn't...
  18. Clete

    Understanding God’s election

    I can't imagine anyone taking it to mean suicide but I've seen crazier things than that! I strongly disagree here. Jesus took up His own life again and thus rose Himself from the grave by His own power. Our resurrection will be something that happens to us by God's power and so it...
  19. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    All of the omni-doctrines are overstatements of the truth. Omnipresence is no exception. Biblically, God can simultaneously be everywhere He wants to be. He is not required to be anywhere, nor can He be forced to go to, or to stay in, any particular place. And, what should go without having to...
  20. Clete

    On the omniscience of God

    Yes it is exactly the correct translation! See! How it easy it is to make bald claims?! Here's the actual argument..... The Greek word παντοκράτωρ (pantokrátōr) translates to "Almighty" or "All-Powerful" in English. It combines panto- (meaning "all" or "every") and krátōr (meaning "ruler" or...
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