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Quite so and I wouldn't ask you to. I did some digging and found a pdf of the book. I've posted just reasons 4-6 to give you a flavor of how the book goes.... REASON #4 AND #5 God uses the Seven Feasts of Israel to tie together the 69th and 70th week of Daniel. The 69th and 70th weeks of Daniel...

I don't think they're mutually exclusive. Christ also is our pattern.

What you see as "soon coming return(s)" is based on, defined by and seen through the lens of your doctrine. That's just the entire point here.

And yet you seem incapable of telling me which prophesies you are referring to.

I got that. I was just articulating the point in my own words. Agreed. Pentecost was just the next step in Israel's prophesied program. I wouldn't attempt to name it. I just know that we are sons of Abraham who was saved first by faith alone apart from circumcision (i.e. the law). Romans 4:16...

The first part of your essay addresses this to some degree but I've always thought that the question, "When did the church begin?" cannot be answered as asked. It's like asking, "What is the gospel?". The answers to these questions have to start by asking "Which church? or "Which gospel?" It...

It certainly seems to me like you're saying a lot more than what that teenager was communicating; something more fundamental about the nature of our existence where such concepts are taken far more literally than is called for and that approaches heresies such as panentheism far too closely.

Everything came from God and so yes, but Adam's physical body existed before his spirit. I don't see how any of that is even relevant. So, you're saying that the spiritual isn't physical. What a revelation! The streets of gold are in the New Jerusalem, not Heaven. Yes, God created it all. So...

I do not debate rationalizations.

You haven't read the book and so this is an understandable response. The fact is that he didn't set a specific date, which was part of his own argument. He wasn't a kook or a cult leader. He was a very normal, highly intelligent pew sitting Christian that happened to have a passion for end times...

"Rationalizing" is to understand shallowly or wrongly, by definition. You don't get to redefine words that have bad connotations to them just because they apply to what you want to do. You seem to do it all the time! The implications do not trump the direct meaning of the text, Lon! The...

Explain that logic to me. There are two biblical facts that are pertinent here... 1. The God who was at the time an entirely spiritual being, created the physical universe. 2. Human beings (including the incarnate Christ, by the way) are ontologically both physical and spiritual beings. Why...

I can't say that I understand the confusion you have about the spiritual interacting with the physical and vise-versa. Is that not the ENTIRE Christian faith? How can it be difficult to grasp that nature's Creator can interact with His creation and if it's entirely a "one-way connection" as you...

We MAY well be at the door or we may not be. I'm telling you, from experience, if you look for reasons to think things are "lining up" you'll be able to find them. That isn't to say that we shouldn't look but merely that we aught not get too convinced that we hear someone grabbing the door knob...

I love this post except for the last sentence. The whole idea needs to be just thrown out. We simply do not exist inside God.

Nice dodge. You need to stop pretending that you're being intellectually honest in your "study" of the scripture. The fact is that you really don't give a damn what anyone might say, do you? You're going to ignore every argument anyone ever makes. You've chosen your doctrines and arguments to...

I was saying similar things in the 1980s and I was just as wrong then as you are now. Every generation of Christians from the Apostle Paul til now has believed they lived in the end times. People tend to figure out ways to see what they want to see.

Sorry, Lon but that is just a bunch of rationalizing. There isn't anything in that text that suggests that it isn't translated correctly and that the thought communicated in English isn't completely in keeping with the thought communicated in Hebrew in both of these passage. What's more is that...

See my previous post above. The only thing that I'll add is that all of this two paragraphs of back breaking philosophical knot tying is 100% motivated by your doctrine and NOT the text! It is just one more example of how you read your doctrine into the text. In fact, it is literally a two...

Rather than simply saying that something needs to be done, why don't you do it? If "to see" isn't correct, then what is? I asked Chat GPT a similar question because I don't have the time it would take to look it up myself. Here's the answer I got.... The phrase "to see" in Genesis 2:19 comes...