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dodge

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lol, Acts 19:4 KJV ,,,"baptism of repentance", was beginning to jump out and so there was an need to find Paul using that word...

lol, I had t need to find the word " repent" it was in scripture right there for all to see unless of course some purposely wanted to avoid that scripture.

There is a flow to scripture that makes ALL scripture fit perfectly together unless your a Madist with an agenda to remove Christ Jesus as the one who taught the Gospel first .
 

Danoh

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Not hardly try actually reading Acts 26:1-20.

Wrong context.

To repent is to change one's mind on a thing or to turn from it....

Exodus 32:12 Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.

Exodus 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

Jeremiah 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

Jeremiah 31:19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

Ezekiel 14:6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

Ezekiel 18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

Jonah 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?

Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

1 Thessalonians 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

Thus, what Paul is relating in Acts 26 is that they should turn to God and follow that by living in line with their having turned to God.

And this is the issue of a change of heart...

Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

In short, I meant within the context of how Scripture uses the word "repent" throughout.

There you have a word study principle you ought to write on a post it note to yourself.
 

dodge

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Wrong context.

To repent is to change one's mind on a thing or to turn from it....

Exodus 32:12 Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.

Exodus 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.

Jeremiah 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.

Jeremiah 31:19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

Ezekiel 14:6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

Ezekiel 18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

Jonah 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?

Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

1 Thessalonians 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;

Thus, what Paul is relating in Acts 26 is that they should turn to God and follow that by living in line with their having turned to God.

And this is the issue of a change of heart...

Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

In short, I meant within the context of how Scripture uses the word "repent" throughout.

There you have a word study principle you ought to write on a post it note to yourself.




Matthew Henery has an excellent commentary on Genesis this:

Gen 6:6-7

Here is,

I. God's resentment of man's wickedness. He did not see it as an unconcerned spectator, but as one injured and affronted by it; he saw it as a tender father sees the folly and stubbornness of a rebellious and disobedient child, which not only angers him, but grieves him, and makes him wish he had been written childless. The expressions here used are very strange: It repented the Lord that he had made man upon the earth, that he had made a creature of such noble powers and faculties, and had put him on this earth, which he built and furnished on purpose to be a convenient, comfortable, habitation for him; and it grieved him at his heart. These are expressions after the manner of men, and must be understood so as not to reflect upon the honour of God's immutability or felicity.
1. This language does not imply any passion or uneasiness in God (nothing can create disturbance to the Eternal Mind), but it expresses his just and holy displeasure against sin and sinners, against sin as odious to his holiness and against sinners as obnoxious to his justice. He is pressed by the sins of his creatures (Amos 2:13), wearied (Isa. 43:24), broken (Eze. 6:9), grieved (Ps. 95:10), and here grieved to the heart, as men are when they are wronged and abused by those they have been very kind to, and therefore repent of their kindness, and wish they had never fostered that snake in their bosom which now hisses in their face and stings them to the heart. Does God thus hate sin? And shall we not hate it? Has our sin grieved him to the heart? And shall we not be grieved and pricked to the heart for it? O that this consideration may humble us and shame us, and that we may look on him whom we have thus grieved, and mourn! Zec. 12:10.
2. It does not imply any change of God's mind; for he is in one mind, and who can turn him? With him there is not variableness. But it expressed a change of his way. When God had made man upright, he rested and was refreshed (Ex. 31:17), and his way towards him was such as showed he was pleased with the work of his own hands; but, now that man had apostatized, he could not do otherwise than show himself displeased; so that the change was in man, not in God. God repented that he had made man; but we never find him repenting that he redeemed man (though that was a work of much greater expense), because special and effectual grace is given to secure the great ends of redemption; so that those gifts and callings are without repentance, Rom. 11:29.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/mhc/Gen/Gen_006.cfm?a=6006
 

dodge

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2. God enabled him to go through a great deal of work, though in it he grappled with a great deal of difficulty, v. 20. He applied himself to the preaching of the gospel with all vigour.
(1.) He began at Damascus, where he was converted, for he resolved to lose no time, ch. 9:20.
(2.) When he came to Jerusalem, where he had his education, he there witnessed for Christ, where he had most furiously set himself against him, ch. 9:29.
(3.) He preached throughout all the coasts of Judea, in the country towns and villages, as Christ had done; he made the first offer of the gospel to the Jews, as Christ had appointed, and did not leave them till they had wilfully thrust the gospel from them; and laid out himself for the good of their souls, labouring more abundantly than any of the apostles, nay perhaps then all put together.
3. His preaching was all practical. He did not go about to fill people's heads with airy notions, did not amuse them with nice speculations, nor set them together by the ears with matters of doubtful disputation, but he showed them, declared it, demonstrated it, that they ought,
(1.) To repent of their sins, to be sorry for them and to confess them, and enter into covenant against them; they ought to bethink themselves, so the word metanoein properly signifies; they ought to change their mind and change their way, and undo what they had done amiss.
(2.) To turn to God. They must not only conceive an antipathy to sin, but they must come into a conformity to God-must not only turn from that which is evil, but turn to that which is good; they must turn to God, in love and affection, and return to God in duty and obedience, and turn and return from the world and the flesh; this is that which is required from the whole revolted degenerate race of mankind, both Jews and Gentiles; epistrephein epi ton Theon-to turn back to God, even to him: to turn to him as our chief good and highest end, as our ruler and portion, turn our eye to him, turn our heart to him, and turn our feet unto his testimonies.
(3.) To do works meet for repentance. This was what John preached, who was the first gospel preacher, Mt. 3:8. Those that profess repentance must practise it, must live a life of repentance, must in every thing carry it as becomes penitents. It is not enough to speak penitent words, but we must do works agreeable to those words. As true faith, so true repentance, will work. Now what fault could be found with such preaching as this? Had it not a direct tendency to reform the world, and to redress its grievances, and to revive natural religion?

https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/mhc/Act/Act_026.cfm?a=1044020
 

dodge

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Oh sure, you don't go by commentaries, dodge - just who do you think you are fooling :chuckle:


re-read I said the first 5 or 6 years after I got saved I read only the bible.

I like Matthew Henery. He loved God and he was a good teacher.
 

Danoh

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And Henry is wrong - God does change His mind...

Exodus 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

2 Chronicles 7:12 And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice. 7:13 If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
 

whitestone

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lol, I had t need to find the word " repent" it was in scripture right there for all to see unless of course some purposely wanted to avoid that scripture.

There is a flow to scripture that makes ALL scripture fit perfectly together unless your a Madist with an agenda to remove Christ Jesus as the one who taught the Gospel first .

Then there was no need for Paul to "re-baptize" those in Acts 19:1-2 KJV if they had already been baptized into Johns baptism(of repentance),and they are called "disciples" and they already believed,,,i.e."since ye believed"?
 

Danoh

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Do yourself a favor...google the words "pdf things that differ stam"

If for no other reason than to at least know what passages of Scripture MADs base their assertions about other issues...on.

All you are getting here is sound bytes...and from different perspectives - sort out at least one overall perspective...

Or not...
 

Danoh

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Then there was no need for Paul to "re-baptize" those in Acts 19:1-2 KJV if they had already been baptized into Johns baptism(of repentance),and they are called "disciples" and they already believed,,,i.e."since ye believed"?

Yep :thumb:
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Acts 26:1-20 Paul also taught "repentance".

Paul was baptized in " water"as was Jesus and every one who was saved in scripture.

Water baptism isn't for those who are living in the "Dispensation of the Grace of God." You're trusting in your ignorance, not a good investment in the long run.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Before Jesus resurrected Baptism was under the law , but after the resurrection baptism was under grace. If that is not the case why would those folks be baptized again in the name of the Lord Jesus ? The difference is Jesus knew HE would walk out of the tomb, when He instructed His disciples to teach and baptize, after 3 days so when He gave a command it was not for the short term but for the long term.

There are 2 covenants in scripture the LAW and GRACE.

Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1:17 "For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect."
 
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