Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

[GFR7]

What happens when homosexuals are allowed to adopt/foster care children:

"The Sedgwick County District Attorney is alleging that a foster father was high while a baby was left in a hot car last week. She later died.

Sedgwick County District Attorney Marc Bennett read the allegations during a bond reduction hearing for Seth Jackson on Friday afternoon.

Bennett said that Jackson had run out of marijuana on the morning of July 24. That afternoon, he reportedly took two children to meet with his drug dealer where he bought more.

When he got home, Bennett said he left the 10-month-old girl in the car, went inside and smoked marijuana. He didn't realize the child was still in the car until more than two hours later, but she was already dead.

Since he believes Jackson was high on the day she died, he supports the higher bond amount. Even with the first degree murder charge, Bennett does not feel Jackson is a flight risk.

Jackson's attorney, Les Hulnick, told KAKE News this is the first he's heard of the marijuana allegations. He also called the first degree murder charge "ludicrous." He expected Jackson to bond out of jail before 5 p.m. Friday, but he was not released from jail until shortly before 5 p.m. on Saturday, according to jail records.

Jackson's adopted children are now in state custody. Other children he and his partner were fostering have also been removed from the home."
Read more: http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Baby-dies-after-left-in-hot-car-268540742.html?=refresh

As horrific and tragic and horrible as this incident is, the argument from proponents of gay parenting will be that these horrendous incidents occur with straight parents and single moms (which the news confirms as true).

I think the Truong-Newton case of Boy 1 is the more indicative of the underlying risk of gay parenting.

 

[jgarden]

Incarceration in the United States

- male incarceration rate is roughly 15 times the female incarceration rate.

- United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. At year-end 2009, it was 743 adults incarcerated per 100,000 population

- according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) 2,266,800 adults were incarcerated in U.S. federal and state prisons, and county jails at year-end 2011 (about 0.94% of adults in the U.S. resident population)

- in addition, 4,814,200 adults at year-end 2011 were on probation or on parole

- in total, 6,977,700 adults were under correctional supervision (probation, parole, jail, or prison) in 2011 – about 2.9% of adults in the U.S. resident population

- National Research Council Report asserts that the prison population of the United States "is by far the largest in the world. Just under one-quarter of the world's prisoners are held in American prisons."

- according to a 2014 report by Human Rights Watch, "tough-on-crime" laws adopted since the 1980s have filled U.S. prisons with mostly nonviolent offenders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States

Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!

What America really needs is millions more nonviolent offenders in
prison!

 

[Nazaroo]

What America really needs is
millions more nonviolent offenders in prison!

Your sarcasm is a FAIL.

Weird old men VIOLATING non-consenting young boys
serves as the very definition of extreme violence.

The solution to overcrowding isn't to make violent crimes legal.

You are a moron.

What America really needs is to empty prisons already full of actual non-violent offenders,
and re-fill them with violent offenders such as priests, gym teachers, coaches, and boy-scout leaders.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Your sarcasm is a FAIL.

Weird old men VIOLATING non-consenting young boys
serves as the very definition of extreme violence.

The solution to overcrowding isn't to make violent crimes legal.

You are a moron.

What America really needs is to empty prisons already full of actual non-violent offenders,
and re-fill them with violent offenders such as priests, gym teachers, coaches, and boy-scout leaders.

We all know that some homosexuals are rapists, and nobody is advocating that that shouldn't be punished. But what about all the homosexuals that are not rapists? Those would qualify as non-violent offenders.

Maybe, just maybe if we released all of the non-violent offenders there would be enough room for the cops that murdered Kelly Thomas.

 

[Nazaroo]

We all know that some homosexuals are rapists, and nobody is advocating that that shouldn't be punished. But what about all the homosexuals that are not rapists? Those would qualify as non-violent offenders.

I think you are practically right,
in suggesting that leaving other issues aside,
two consenting adults behaving in a non-violent and harmless fashion
would qualify as non-violent.

The problem arises when we recognize that those advocating
unusual and dangerous behaviour which INCLUDES violence,
such as Sado-Masochism, choking, physically harmful sex-practices,
and high-risk behaviours are revealing in themselves significant mental incompetence.

Just as we don't let children engage in harmful acts they may not be fully cognisant of,
and just as we don't let mentally deficient people have 'card blanche',
and just as we naturally seek to restrain and we protect the rest of society
from sociopaths who would harm the unwary,
we also naturally want some regulation and restraints in regard to
these people who are advocating dangerous behaviours.

We already have laws restraining people from encouraging others to do violence.
When we include sexual violence, then homosexual lifestyles and advocates
are subject to these laws.

When a person advocates a dangerous behaviour,
we cannot take at face value their claim that they are doing it in the name of
'human rights', 'self-direction', 'autonomy', 'privacy' and 'informed consent'.
We must also allow that many people doing this are doing it to
actively and consciously encourage others to harm themselves.

This is a sad fact of life, and you can see thousands of adolescent fools
encouraging others who are vulnerable into serious injury or death, on Youtube.

A significant number of people advocating homosexual acts under "consenting adults"
are in fact engaging in conscious criminal mischief, and seeking to harm
others.

Maybe, just maybe if we released all of the non-violent offenders there would be enough room for the cops that murdered Kelly Thomas.

violent offenders does not only include those who actually commit physical violence.

Just as we find a mafia Don or gangleader guilty of murder when he gives a contract or order,
and not just the 'henchman' who carries out the order,
we also need to find lawyers and judges guilty as violent offenders
when their actions perpetrate violence upon innocent people,
such as those who are falsely convicted and sent to prison.

The Bible has a rule to protect the innocent and guarantee justice:
The false witness or lawyer or judge who falsely causes an innocent person
to be punished or even ATTEMPTS to do same,
shall be punished with the punishment INTENDED for their victim.

Deuteronomy 19:19-21 (NIV) 19 then do to the false witness as that witness intended to do to the other party. You must purge the evil from among you. 20 The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing be done among you. 21 Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Thus even if the victim is NOT beaten or murdered or raped in prison,
the lawyers and judges who sent him there must be punished in that fashion,
to put the fear of God's justice into all judges and lawyers.

Thus the punishment for attempted murder is death,
and the punishment for attempted sodomy would also be DEATH.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

You want to lock them up and in some cases execute them anyway. What's the difference? Does it make you mad that you won't get to flip the switch?

I'd "flip the switch" in a heartbeat on your fellow sodomite-doper that allowed a 10 month old baby to suffocate in a car while he was smoking dope and doing who knows what to his boyfriend.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4003478&postcount=1359

I noticed that you brought up homosexual foster parenting in a recent thread that you started. Is this subject hitting close to home for you shag?

Is a platonic gay relationship Biblically ok? I have heard some around here say that the desire to have sex with someone of the same sex is not a sin, but acting on it is. So what about a platonic gay relationship?

Say they just want to partner financially and have equal visitation rights at hospitals and all that jazz, and are truly in love with each other, and maybe even want to foster some children who need a home, but do not have sex. Would those of you who oppose gay marriage on religious grounds be ok with that? Is the sin not there?

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4003530&postcount=1

 

[aCultureWarrior]

As horrific and tragic and horrible as this incident is, the argument from proponents of gay parenting will be that these horrendous incidents occur with straight parents and single moms (which the news confirms as true).

Many a sodomite before you has brought that up GFR7. On a side note: Shouldn't you and Samuel be out getting tested?

 

[Nazaroo]

There: Fixed that for ya.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

We all know that some homosexuals are rapists, and nobody is advocating that that shouldn't be punished. But what about all the homosexuals that are not rapists? Those would qualify as non-violent offenders.

Maybe, just maybe if we released all of the non-violent offenders there would be enough room for the cops that murdered Kelly Thomas.

Talk to a medical doctor that has witnessed the "gay bowel syndrome".

Homosex is violent on the human body Jr.

BTW, welcome back. aCW gives Jr. a wink and a smile.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

There: Fixed that for ya.

Obviously you haven't chatted with Dark Radiance. 1-3 HAART pills daily and those that engage in buggery can live to be a million years old!

 

[Arthur Brain]

Well, good to see that 'Captain gay men obsessed' is back in his element...

Or should I say blog...?

lain:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

If this doesn't make you proud to be an American, nothing will.


Obama Makes Surprise Appearance to Kick Off Gay Games

August 9, 2014

President Obama made a surprise video appearance at the opening ceremonies of the 2014 Gay Games in Cleveland on Saturday. Joining Greg Louganis, Lance Bass, the Pointer Sisters, and Broadway’s Andrea McArdle and Alex Newell in celebrating the event, Obama said, “Since 1982 the Gay Games have given lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender athletes and supporters around the world a chance to come together to compete, celebrate, and inspire others.”

President Obama, who is vacationing on Martha’s Vineyard, noted how the country has changed since the games began in 1982. “We’ve also seen America change in that time, even since 2006, when the games were last held in the United States in my hometown of Chicago. We’ve come a long way in our commitment to the equal rights of LGBT people here and around the world,” he said.

As international crises continue to dominate the world stage, the president took a break from his vacation and busy golf schedule to record the message for the Gay Games, boasting about his accomplishments on behalf of the LGBT movement since becoming president. ”I’m proud of my administration’s record and of the citizens who’ve helped push for justice.”

The president had a special message for those living in countries that persecute LGBT individuals, explaining what he believes to be the “very idea” of America. “You should know that the United States stands with you and for your human rights, just as our athletes stand with you on the field at these games,” he said. “After all, the very idea of America is that no matter who you are, what you look like, where you come from, or who you love, you can make it if you try. That’s who we are. That’s who we should continually strive to be. ”Read more:
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/08/0...arance-to-kick-off-gay-games/?singlepage=true

B. Hussein Obama: Striking fear (with his sissy demeanor) in the hearts of evil dictators throughout the world since 2008.

 

[GFR7]

Many a sodomite before you has brought that up GFR7. On a side note: Shouldn't you and Samuel be out getting tested?

As usual, you pay no attention to the meaning of the post.

If you are really and truly concerned with getting a message out, you should focus on studies that empirically reveal gay parenting to be a risk situation for children, and find ways to show that the Truong-Newton case may be an indication of dangers lying beneath the surface with gay male adoption.

As for getting tested, I fail to see why a person who has been celibate since 2006 and prior to that had only married sex, needs to be tested for anything. :think:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

As usual, you pay no attention to the meaning of the post.

Here's your original post:

As horrific and tragic and horrible as this incident is, the argument from proponents of gay parenting will be that these horrendous incidents occur with straight parents and single moms (which the news confirms as true).

I think the Truong-Newton case of Boy 1 is the more indicative of the underlying risk of gay parenting.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4003541&postcount=1361

Australian pair in L.A. convicted for making child porn with ‘adopted son’ from Russia

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/2-convicted-adopted-son-porn-article-1.1385895#ixzz3A5zwqmP6

Straight parents and single moms abuse their children too:

Mom pimps out 14 year-old daughter, and 7 year-old, fourth man charged.
http://www.nj.com/parenting/index.ssf/2012/06/mom_pimps_out_14_year-old_daug.html

If you are really and truly concerned with getting a message out, you should focus on studies that empirically reveal gay parenting to be a risk situation for children, and find ways to show that the Truong-Newton case may be an indication of dangers lying beneath the surface with gay male adoption

If you weren't a fraud you'd know that there is an inherent risk with those that partake in homosexual behavior being around children.

As for getting tested, I fail to see why a person who has been celibate since 2006 and prior to that had only married sex, needs to be tested for anything. :think:

Speaking of pathological liars: How come your foul mouthed boyfriend didn't come back and answer this post?

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4001605&postcount=1354

 

[GFR7]

Here's your original post:


http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4003541&postcount=1361

Australian pair in L.A. convicted for making child porn with ‘adopted son’ from Russia

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/2-convicted-adopted-son-porn-article-1.1385895#ixzz3A5zwqmP6

Straight parents and single moms abuse their children too:

Mom pimps out 14 year-old daughter, and 7 year-old, fourth man charged.
http://www.nj.com/parenting/index.ssf/2012/06/mom_pimps_out_14_year-old_daug.html



If you weren't a fraud you'd know that there is an inherent risk with those that partake in homosexual behavior being around children.



Speaking of pathological liars: How come your foul mouthed boyfriend didn't come back and answer this post?

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4001605&postcount=1354

Of course we both know that I'm neither a fraud nor a pathological liar (or a liar, period) and I cannot answer for other people. :wave2:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Of course we both know that I'm neither a fraud nor a pathological liar (or a liar, period) and I cannot answer for other people. :wave2:

As far as the inherent risk of homosexuals being around children:

12 Ways Homosexual Adults Endanger Children
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3924979&postcount=57

 

[GFR7]

As far as the inherent risk of homosexuals being around children:

12 Ways Homosexual Adults Endanger Children
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3924979&postcount=57

Yes, we know this and understand it fully.

I was speaking of how to convince a public which always says that the homosexuals who abuse children are the rarest of exceptions.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I think you are practically right,
in suggesting that leaving other issues aside,
two consenting adults behaving in a non-violent and harmless fashion
would qualify as non-violent.

The problem arises when we recognize that those advocating
unusual and dangerous behaviour which INCLUDES violence,
such as Sado-Masochism, choking, physically harmful sex-practices,
and high-risk behaviours are revealing in themselves significant mental incompetence.

Just as we don't let children engage in harmful acts they may not be fully cognisant of,
and just as we don't let mentally deficient people have 'card blanche',
and just as we naturally seek to restrain and we protect the rest of society
from sociopaths who would harm the unwary,
we also naturally want some regulation and restraints in regard to
these people who are advocating dangerous behaviours.

We already have laws restraining people from encouraging others to do violence.
When we include sexual violence, then homosexual lifestyles and advocates
are subject to these laws.

When a person advocates a dangerous behaviour,
we cannot take at face value their claim that they are doing it in the name of
'human rights', 'self-direction', 'autonomy', 'privacy' and 'informed consent'.
We must also allow that many people doing this are doing it to
actively and consciously encourage others to harm themselves.

This is a sad fact of life, and you can see thousands of adolescent fools
encouraging others who are vulnerable into serious injury or death, on Youtube.

A significant number of people advocating homosexual acts under "consenting adults"
are in fact engaging in conscious criminal mischief, and seeking to harm
others.


violent offenders does not only include those who actually commit physical violence.

Just as we find a mafia Don or gangleader guilty of murder when he gives a contract or order,
and not just the 'henchman' who carries out the order,
we also need to find lawyers and judges guilty as violent offenders
when their actions perpetrate violence upon innocent people,
such as those who are falsely convicted and sent to prison.

The Bible has a rule to protect the innocent and guarantee justice:
The false witness or lawyer or judge who falsely causes an innocent person
to be punished or even ATTEMPTS to do same,
shall be punished with the punishment INTENDED for their victim.

Deuteronomy 19:19-21 (NIV) 19 then do to the false witness as that witness intended to do to the other party. You must purge the evil from among you. 20 The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing be done among you. 21 Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Thus even if the victim is NOT beaten or murdered or raped in prison,
the lawyers and judges who sent him there must be punished in that fashion,
to put the fear of God's justice into all judges and lawyers.

Thus the punishment for attempted murder is death,
and the punishment for attempted sodomy would also be DEATH.

I agree with most of what you are saying here. I agree that someone who hires a killer is also responsible, and I agree that the judges who lock people up for things that shouldn't be crimes are also responsible, as are the prosecutors who try to get people locked up for such crimes. Now, I think the odds of actually getting these people to pay for their sins before they meet God is significantly lower than the odds that Ron Paul will be the next President, but I am definitely in favor of it.

By "sodomy" do you mean any homosexual activity or only rape? If you meant rape I could agree with you (though I could also agree to a different punishment) but if you just meant homosexual activities, I don't think those should be legally punishable. I understand that that was the law in ancient Israel, but I don't think that means that should be the law anywhere else.

 

[GFR7]

As far as the inherent risk of homosexuals being around children:

12 Ways Homosexual Adults Endanger Children
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3924979&postcount=57

As far as getting the general public on your side (which a re-criminalization campaign must surely do) here is your public relations problem:

5. Now to the dynamite question: yes, some homosexually-identified adults do have sex with underage teens and even children. What percentage of openly “LGBT” adults do this is anyone’s guess...

So long as it is "anybody's guess", gay advocacy (I said gay advocacy, and NOT myself) will keep teaching that the gays who molest teens and children are a tiny , sick, minority , and irrelevant - and that most pedophiles and molesters of minors are straight males.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
As far as the inherent risk of homosexuals being around children:

12 Ways Homosexual Adults Endanger Children
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...9&postcount=57

Yes, we know this and understand it fully.

Same ole patronizing GFR7.

I was speaking of how to convince a public which always says that the homosexuals who abuse children are the rarest of exceptions.

Get the truth out and not post idiotic things like this:

Well, after encountering a certain extremist mindset of a particular poster here -whose explosion terrified me and taught me a lesson - I am now convinced that a gradual counter-educational movement is the answer.

1.. There can be LGBTQ taught in schools, but there must be a counter-teaching just as available and just as strong.

2. People have a right to ban reparative therapy, but a counter-movement has a right to promote it and to fight to repeal those bans.

3. Some Christian Churches want to accept gays, but there must be prominent groups who refuse to do so.

4. Media and entertainment can promote gays, but there must be strong media and film venues which are allowed to show the opposing side.

5. Rules to protect minors must be enforced (vis a vis certain displays at Pride displays) without ruling out the parades altogether.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3987772&postcount=1142