ECT What is the true root objection to MAD?

SaulToPaul 2

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That's cuz you're always dozing off, while the preacher is giving his sermon, at your "Burger King" "the church," until "Bringing in the Sheaves" starts playing.

I feel sorry for you, you've never entered into the Covenant of Slow Down What's Your Hurry.
 

Nick M

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Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

Ezekiel 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

So having them slaughtered at the hands of the Romans and being dispersed was raising them from the grave and placing them in their own land?

A mite curious, even to and urbanite like me.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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So having them slaughtered at the hands of the Romans and being dispersed was raising them from the grave and placing them in their own land?

A mite curious, even to and urbanite like me.

If you quit following saint John Nelson Darby, you may understand.
 

john w

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Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

When did the LORD finish his final 3.5 years of confirming the covenant (as you believe)? And how did he go about confirming it, being in heaven?

Why was there a gap?

Do you make fun of dispy wackos for believing in a similar gap?


Yes, Craigie's "GAP theory"-Wait...GAP "invention"(he taught us that word).


"The law was nailed to the cross. You can't divide the law into parts that suit your belief system."-Tet.

"God didn't flick a lightswitch that in a split second switched the entire planet from OC to NC.Hebrews tells us that the OC was "waxing" and would soon be obsolete. We know that the OC was completely gone in 70AD."-Tet.

The "lightswitch" "invention."

The mutt.
 

tetelestai

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What if I , a single man, look at another man's wife with lust in my heart?

Greetings and salutations from North Carolina. The last we conversed, I was in Pittsburgh. It's much warmer here.

To answer your question; that would be fornication on your part.

If you're not married, you can't commit adultery.
 

Totton Linnet

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Yes, when we die.

Now scripture does not so teach the rapture.

Those who are dead are first to rise then we are alive and remain will be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the clouds

Once again Paul teaches we shall not sleep but we will be changed in the wink of an eye. And John teaches the same.

Now according to Paul the whole church is gone in the rapture...so who are we if this took place in 70ad?
 

tetelestai

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..so who are we if this took place in 70ad?

We are "those who are alive and remain" (technically, we are those who "remain", the "alive" part was for those who were alive in 70AD)

The OT believers were resurrected in 70AD, they are reigning with Christ right now. Along with those who were sealed from 30AD - 70AD.

Why would Paul say "and remain" if the people he was speaking about were allegedly going to be raptured at that time?
 

SaulToPaul 2

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We are "those who are alive and remain" (technically, we are those who "remain", the "alive" part was for those who were alive in 70AD)

The OT believers were resurrected in 70AD, they are reigning with Christ right now. Along with those who were sealed from 30AD - 70AD.

Why would Paul say "and remain" if the people he was speaking about were allegedly going to be raptured at that time?

Was Paul not sealed? Why did he include himself and the Thessalonians in the group that allegedly would remain after 70ad?



1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.


The alive and remain is UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD.


1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 

steko

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Now scripture does not so teach the rapture.

Those who are dead are first to rise then we are alive and remain will be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the clouds

Once again Paul teaches we shall not sleep but we will be changed in the wink of an eye. And John teaches the same.

Now according to Paul the whole church is gone in the rapture...so who are we if this took place in 70ad?

Was Paul not sealed? Why did he include himself and the Thessalonians in the group that allegedly would remain after 70ad?



1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.


The alive and remain is UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD.


1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

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tetelestai

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Was Paul not sealed?

Of course

Why did he include himself and the Thessalonians in the group that allegedly would remain after 70ad?

Paul said "those of us who are alive and remain". Paul said this years before 70AD, so there was no way Paul knew who would or who would not still be alive, but he knew the event was close, so he knew some of them would still be alive.

Paul also knew that Jesus promised that He would return, and that some of that generation would still be alive when it happened.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.


The alive and remain is UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD.

Yes, Paul knew that some of them would still be alive when the coming of the Lord took place. Paul didn't know if he would be alive or not, and he didn't know which people he was talking to would still be alive.

Paul also knew that the Great Jewish Revolt had to happen before the coming of the Lord.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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Of course



Paul said "those of us who are alive and remain". Paul said this years before 70AD, so there was no way Paul knew who would or who would not still be alive, but he knew the event was close, so he knew some of them would still be alive.

Paul also knew that Jesus promised that He would return, and that some of that generation would still be alive when it happened.



Yes, Paul knew that some of them would still be alive when the coming of the Lord took place. Paul didn't know if he would be alive or not, and he didn't know which people he was talking to would still be alive.

Paul also knew that the Great Jewish Revolt had to happen before the coming of the Lord.

There is no way you can extend the "alive and remain" statement beyond the 2nd coming, which is what you are attempting to do.
 
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