ECT What is the true root objection to MAD?

[heir]

The bible cannot be believed until and unless it is read.

All of it . . .

Heed your own advice. Read it and believe it.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Of course the flesh acts up, but that does nothing to change our justification. It affects our witness, maturity etc

What is your "Witness?"

 

[andyc]

I notice a lot of "pot shots" at Madists but, no, "Testimonies of faith" from
its rejecters? Why is that Nang?

You answered your own question in your next post.

Where's your Testimony of what God did in your life? Could it be that,
you're not even a member of the "Body of Christ?"

This is why there is no point.

 

[Stripe]

I was merely using the word you yourself used for the sake of continuity. So you will have to answer your own question.

OK, sure.

The means of salvation will never change; Jesus Christ has always and will always be our means of salvation.

The rules of salvation have changed. They must have, given that for half of our history, He had not yet died on the cross.

I tend to steer clear of concepts involving rules because I am very much a relationship person in theological terms.

If your father told you that you were not allowed to drive the car for 15 years and then after you reached a certain age he changed the rules, would you be wanting to "steer clear" in that situation as well?

There aren't do x and y and you will be saved kind of rules.

Absolutely. However, without Paul, nobody would know this.

Roses are red,
Violets are bluish,
If it wasn't for Paul,
We'd all be Jewish.​

For one person it might mean believing God when he tells you to sacrifice your son. For another it might mean following some provision of the law of Moses like taking your new born boy to the temple at 7 days old. For another it might mean disobeying the law and for another it might mean believing a street preacher when he tells you about Jesus and in your heart promising that you will go to church and find out more. Whether it happens before after Christ was born is academic.

No action, regardless of how obedient or good it is, has any part to play in the means by which we are saved.

 

[Cross Reference]

Do you have a testimony of your faith, Andyc? If not then, continue
to remain silent about it, and we'll know where you stand!

You mean you will know by guessing, like you do about all you bet your life on. . . . tragic way to learn anything.

 

[Nang]

You answered your own question in your next post.



This is why there is no point.

There is no GM, either. At least not in my book.

Nothing but a :troll:

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You mean you will by guessing, like you do about all you bet your life on. . . . tragic way to learn anything.

Does it make you weep and sob as we speak?

 

[heir]

The "Unsaved" seem to use "Biblical errors" as their out!!

It's a get out of a tight spot free card.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

There is no GM, either. At least not in my book.

Nothing but a :troll:

There's nothing worth less, than your opinion Nang!

 

[andyc]

Then, I'm forced to believe, you don't have one to give! The others
are thinking the same thing!

I don't put any value on opinions of me from a madist.
I occasionally like to throw my posts out into these kind of threads in the hope that non mads will see through you lot. All the sinister motives hiding behind the the theology you teach.

 

[Cross Reference]

Does it make you weep and sob as we speak?

If you were a person without agenda, I would.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

It's a get out of a tight spot free card.

Yeah, they blame the Greek translations, the Hebrew Translations, and
the Sun being in their eyes!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

If you were a person without agenda, I would.

Ah, does us all a favor and start weeping and sobbing, just because,
you're that kind of guy?

 

[heir]

I don't put any value on opinions of me from a madist.
I occasionally like to throw my posts out into these kind of threads in the hope that non mads will see through you lot. All the sinister motives hiding behind the the theology you teach.

Can you answer STP's question to you?

 

[andyc]

Can you answer STP's question to you?

Sure. Could he be clearer what he meant exactly?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Sure. Could he be clearer what he meant exactly?

You mentioned the gospel.

My question: Which is?

 

[Cross Reference]

Ah, does us all a favor and start weeping and sobbing, just because,
you're that kind of guy?

Care to clear up that mess of words?

 

[andyc]

This is an example of the genetic fallacy. Naming the source of an argument is no evidence that the argument is false. What you need to do is present a rational response to what I have said.

If you present the teachings of hyper dispensationalism from people before the likes of Bullinger and Darby, this would be your evidence that my claim was false.

 

[heir]

You mentioned the gospel.

My question: Which is?

seemed simple enough the first time you asked it

 

[andyc]

You mentioned the gospel.

My question: Which is?

John 3:16

The dreaded red letters that you assume is not for you.