Thanks keypurr, I will take a look through, :thumb:
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Hi Keypurr. I have now read the first five pages and the last five pages of this thread. It seems we are in complete agreement concerning the the critical difference between the man Yeshua and Yeshua the Messiah. Rather than rehash what has been gone over already herein I will simply add the following in hopes that it will enhance your understanding of what you already know to be the truth. The only real "change" in what I offer here is truly no change at all but simply a more strict understanding of lego-legomenos which is "lay forth" in the sense of describing, detailing, demarcating, delineating, calling out, which is exactly what the man Yeshua does concerning the Christos given him from the Father above. The Messiah cannot be seen with the eyes of the flesh because as you say he is Spirit. The man Yeshua describes the Messiah through his parables, idioms, sayings, and doctrines, and this is the stricter sense of legomenos even though all translations have rendered it here in the following passage as if it means that the man Yeshua was "called" the Christos. The difference in meaning means the misunderstanding of the entire passage and all of the Gospel. For the same reason modern trinitarianism cannot explain why it cannot account for the full 42 generations in the opening of the Gospel of Matthew. But if Matthew plainly tells us that there are 14+14+14 generations in his genealogy then one either must believe that he made a mistake in his own writing or admit that the mainstream understanding is in error. The Father bless your Bread of Life and Living Water even more than He already has.
Matthew 1:1-17
1. Genesis book of Yeshua Christou-Meshiach, son of David, son of Abraham.
2. Abraham [1] begat Yitschak; [2] and Yitschak begat Yaakob; [3] and Yaakob begat Yhudah [4] and his brethren:
3. and Yhudah begat Pherez [5] and Zerah of Tamar; and Pherez begat Hezron; [6] and Hezron begat Ram: [7]
4. and Ram begat Amminadab; [8] and Amminidab begat Nahshon; [9] and Nahshon begat Salmon: [10]
5. and Salmon begat Boaz [11] of Rahab; and Boaz begat Obed [12] of Ruth; and Obed begat Yishay: [13]
6. and Yishay begat David [14] the king. And David begat Sholomoh [15] of her that had been the wife of Uriyah:
7. and Sholomoh begat Rehoboam; [16] and Rehoboam begat Abiyah; [17] and Abiyah begat Asa: [18]
8. and Asa begat Yehoshaphat; [19] and Yehoshaphat begat Yhoram; [20] and Yhoram begat Uzziah: [21]
9. and Uzziah begat Yotham; [22] and Yotham begat Ahaz; [23] and Ahaz begat Hezekiah: [24]
10. and Hezekiah begat Manassheh; [25] and Manassheh begat Amon; [26] and Amon begat Yosiah: [27]
11. and Yosiah begat Yechoniah [28] and his brethren, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12. And after the deportation to Babylon, Yechoniah begat Shealtiel; [29] and Shealtiel begat Zerubbabel: [30]
13. and Zerubbabel begat Abiud; [31] and Abiud begat Eliakim; [32] and Eliakim begat Azor: [33]
14. and Azor begat Tzadok; [34] and Tzadok begat Achim; [35] and Achim begat Eliud: [36]
15. and Eliud begat Eleazar; [37] and Eleazar begat Matthan; [38] and Matthan begat Yaakob: [39]
16. and Yaakob begat Yoseph the andraMariam, [40] of whom was begat Yeshua, [41] who is legomenos-laying-forth-describing-speaking Christos-Meshiach [42].
17. So all the generations from Abraham unto David are fourteen generations; and from David unto the deportation to Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the deportation to Babylon unto the Christou-HaMeshiach are fourteen generations.
And three times fourteen generations are forty-two generations.
Fourteen generations from Abraham to David:
1) Abraham
2) Yitschak
3) Yaakob
4) Yhudah
5) Pherez
6) Hezron
7) Ram
8) Amminadab
9) Nahshon
10) Salmon
11) Boaz
12) Obed
13) Yishay
14) David
Fourteen generations from Solomon to Jechoniah
15) Sholomoh
16) Rehoboam
17) Abiyah
18) Asa
19) Yehoshaphat
20) Yhoram
21) Uzziah
22) Yotham
23) Ahaz
24) Hezekiah
25) Manassheh
26) Amon
27) Yosiah
28) Yechoniah
Fourteen generations from Shealtiel to Yeshua the Messiah:
29) Shealtiel
30) Zerubbabel
31) Abiud
32) Eliakim
33) Azor
34) Tzadok
35) Achim
36) Eliud
37) Eleazar
38) Matthan
39) Yaakob
40) Yoseph the andraMariam
41) Yeshua son of Yoseph - Netser of Yishay - Isaiah 11:1
42) Yeshua HaMeshiach - Tsemach Branch - Zechariah 3:8 - Zechariah 6:12
