What ever happened to...
- Thread starter WatchmanOnTheWall
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It's for trolling my thread. You keep doing it. You think you can carry on conversations in threads that aren't yours. Regularly off topic and personal. I know you don't give me any, thanks.
marhig
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Way to go meshak, that's true
marhig
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If we have true faith, we will obey Jesus and the father. And if we follow the two greatest commandments, then in God's time, we will be filled with the Holy Spirit of life, love and truth, and then we will have the laws written on our hearts and in our minds. God's laws aren't abolished, we live by them in the Spirit as we are guided by him, once we walk in the Spirit and are circumcised of the heart and not by the letter of the law. The spirit teaches us all things, and that includes how to live right before God, which is what the laws were made for.
Jesus is a new and living way to follow, he obeyed the laws of God, and he showed us how to live right before him. And if we truly follow Jesus, then we will live right before God too, and worship him in Spirit and in truth and Christ by the Spirit will strengthen us to do so. Jesus wasn't our perfect example for nothing. He is the way, the truth and the life and those who truly follow Jesus, live by him and by his teachings and they obey the truth.
marhig
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Don't you believe that the prophets had the Holy Spirit? If they did them they were born of God.
marhig
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I can't believe that you would disrespect God's prophets as you do, these are men of God living by his will, they are not in hell, they are with God.
marhig
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Peter clearly says that Christ was in the prophets. They didn't realise that Christ was within them, that was the mystery that had been revealed to us.
1 Peter 1
That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow
WatchmanOnTheWall
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John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
John 19:30
When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
IT IS FINISHED
Meaning Jesus made the way. Believing that allows us to enter Heaven.
marhig
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IT IS FINISHED, meaning Jesus has overcome the world and Satan!
He made the way in his lifetime, bringing us a perfect example of how to live and he was doing the work that the father had given him to do which was to preach and bare witness to the truth, and Jesus said that he finished the work that have been given him by the father before he went on the cross.
And it says John 3:16 It's whosoever believes in Jesus shall not perish but have eternal life, not whosoever believes in his death on cross shall have eternal life. And those who truly believe obey God and obey what Jesus teaches and live by the word and will of God.
WatchmanOnTheWall
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The Holy Spirit wasn't given till Pentecost. God spoke to the Prophets and they communicated what God had said. This was God the Father Who is in one accord with Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
marhig
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Well that's not what it says in the old testament, many speak of the Spirit being with them, when I get time later, I will find you some verses if you wish? I'm just busy ATM. Every time I speak to you I seem to be on my way out
speak later God willing.
WatchmanOnTheWall
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Again this was not me who said this, it was Jesus!!!
And they also sinned a times and most probably daily like most people. They were just men who God chose to use. Yes they may have been better than the rest but to God they were just the best of a bad bunch. No disrespect meant.
No one went to Heaven before the cross.
marhig
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Wow, I can't believe that people think like this.
And Moses and Elias would not have been on the mountain speaking to Jesus if they were in hell! And that was before Jesus died on the cross! How could you believe such men would be in hell?
As it says on Ecclesiastes 12, (amazingly in the old testament)
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Ok I'm off.
WatchmanOnTheWall
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Now show me the OT verse Peter is referring to? Because I can't find one. I know in post #84 I said Jesus did speak through the OT prophets because of this verse but I think Peter is referring to the fact that Jesus and God are one. Perhaps you could find an OT verse that backs Peter up literally but can't so am suggesting this.
Contextual meaning is that Jesus finished the mission that His Father assigned Him to.
He was faithful to His Father until the end. And He succeeded His mission for His Father.
We ought to strive to be faithful to Him until the end like He did.
I just created a thread for you because you don't accept any PMs.
I hope you read it.
thanks
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Messianic Christology
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