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WatchmanOnTheWall

WatchmanOnTheWall

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marhig said:
Christ didn't just speak through them, Christ was their spiritual rock, he was strengthening them.
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I meant in terms of the trinity.
As for born of God, all those who have the Spirit within, and walk in the Spirit are born of God. And the the prophets were definitely born of God.
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You would need to back that up was a vesre please.
If they weren't, then they certainty wouldn't be a part of the foundation to be built on.
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No, because Christ is the corner stone from which everything is measured.
I have to go for now, speak soon.
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WatchmanOnTheWall

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meshak said:
my goodness.

choose narrow way which is Jesus' way.

Jesus is the way. He teaches us how to get into God's kingdom.
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But you have the wrong understanding of His teachings:

John 6:29
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
 
WatchmanOnTheWall

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marhig said:
Just one more thought before I go, you said here that the Spirit of Christ spoke through the prophets, well Jesus said thieves and robbers came before him, but the sheep did not hear them. But the sheep hear the voice of Christ.

If Christ spoke through the prophets then it was his voice speaking, so they are not thieves or robbers, rather they speak the word of God through Christ Jesus who was their spiritual rock.
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As I 'amended' it was Jesus in terms of the trinity (they are in one accord after all). This is why it says in the OT that it was always God the father or the Spirit of God (The Holy Spirit) speaking to or through the prophets and Holy people etc. But you never read in the OT that Jesus (or the Messiah or any other name associated with Jesus) spoke through anyone, although Jesus did appear in bodily form at times and spoke to individuals but not from within. Please by all means check this but I'm sure this is correct.
 
WatchmanOnTheWall

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intojoy said:
If you’re a jehobo winass I have to block you. Based on your lack of ability to discern truth you’re obviously a jw. The only difference between a jw and an old used VW car is you can still slam the door shut on the jw s


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No I'm not a JW nor do I agree with any of the demoninations. I follow and believe in Jesus. Jesus is the only way to Heaven and your spiritual works follow on. If you think you or anyone else can worm their way into Heaven then you might end up saying; 'LORD LORD didn't I do this and that for you?' But He will say 'I never even knew you.'

You can only know Christ be accepting him as you saviour, not yourself.
 
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God's Truth said:
Lk 16:23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
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Jesus describes two different parts of Sheol (Hebrew for Hell), separated by an Abyss that is also mentioned in the book of Revelation:

Revelation 20:3
He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

All three parts: The place of torment the Abyss and Abraham's side are all parts of Hell.
 
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WatchmanOnTheWall said:
Jesus describes two different parts of Sheol (Hebrew for Hell), separated by an Abyss that is also mentioned in the book of Revelation:

Revelation 20:3
He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

All three parts: The place of torment the Abyss and Abraham's side are all parts of Hell.
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Face it that you spoke untruths.
 
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WatchmanOnTheWall said:
But you have the wrong understanding of His teachings:

John 6:29
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
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It is you who don't have right understanding.

If you believe in Jesus, you would strive to obey what He teaches but you deny it.
 
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meshak said:
It is you who don't have right understanding.

If you believe in Jesus, you would strive to obey what He teaches but you deny it.
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The law is a curse and a schoolmaster, to bring us to CHRIST. We are no longer under the curse of the law nor do we need a schoolmaster (the law) anymore.


Galatians 3:10-24 KJV - Please read this meshak, we've all told you before.
[FONT=&quot]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]22But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.[/FONT]
 
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patrick jane said:
The law is a curse and a schoolmaster, to bring us to CHRIST. We are no longer under the curse of the law nor do we need a schoolmaster (the law) anymore.
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You are misusing his word.

He does advocate to follow Jesus' law, not OT laws.

Paul does not denying to follow Jesus.

You guys just twist Paul's teachings.
 
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