ECT Two MAD errors that block them together from the truth

Interplanner

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the 2P2P treatment of Dan 9 sets up an expectation of a 'other' program for Israel when the NT comes along. And butchers Dan 9.

that is why 'sent only to the house of Israel' is used so desparately has a proof text. But if 2P2P were admitted to be false, both would clear up.
 

patrick jane

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the 2P2P treatment of Dan 9 sets up an expectation of a 'other' program for Israel when the NT comes along. And butchers Dan 9.

that is why 'sent only to the house of Israel' is used so desparately has a proof text. But if 2P2P were admitted to be false, both would clear up.
Please explain your assertion. In normal english
 

Danoh

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the 2P2P treatment of Dan 9 sets up an expectation of a 'other' program for Israel when the NT comes along. And butchers Dan 9.

that is why 'sent only to the house of Israel' is used so desparately has a proof text. But if 2P2P were admitted to be false, both would clear up.

Lol - yours is YOUR self-portrait of what YOU do.

You read (red) about things in books about; and embraced them as your own because their faulty way of looking at a thing matched your own, in life, in general.

One day, you run into MAD's assertions and right off you project what you now do - approach things from your books based bias already in place - you project that as being what MADs must also be doing..

Which, of course, you then take to mean must be the case.

After all; everyone does this book based parrot dance of yours; right?

It never occurs to you books based types that perhaps there actually are people out there who actually approach the Scripture with questions going in rather than with preset answers.

Not that MADs are always faultless in this "questions, in contrast to bias going in, problem" :chuckle:

For it is a problem all Believers must not only be ever vigilant in self-addressing, but in allowing others to challenge us, whenever it appears any of us have failed in this.

Unfortunately, that too often only ends up both offending, and or exposing who belongs to what club :chuckle:

Including you...
 

patrick jane

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Lol - yours is YOUR self-portrait of what YOU do.

You read (red) about things in books about; and embraced them as your own because their faulty way of looking at a thing matched your own, in life, in general.

One day, you run into MAD's assertions and right off you project what you now do - approach things from your books based bias already in place - you project that as being what MADs must also be doing..

Which, of course, you then take to mean must be the case.

After all; everyone does this book based parrot dance of yours; right?

It never occurs to you books based types that perhaps there actually are people out there who actually approach the Scripture with questions going in rather than with preset answers.

Not that MADs are always faultless in this "questions, in contrast to bias going in, problem" :chuckle:

For it is a problem all Believers must not only be ever vigilant in self-addressing, but in allowing others to challenge us, whenever it appears any of us have failed in this.

Unfortunately, that too often only ends up both offending, and or exposing who belongs to what club :chuckle:

Including you...
:chuckle:
 

Lazy afternoon

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the 2P2P treatment of Dan 9 sets up an expectation of a 'other' program for Israel when the NT comes along. And butchers Dan 9.

that is why 'sent only to the house of Israel' is used so desparately has a proof text. But if 2P2P were admitted to be false, both would clear up.


Daniel is a fellow saint of ours and his people are our people.

There is no distinctions between Jews and Gentiles in the Kingdom of God and both the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven is the same Kingdom.

There is no seventh week to come, only 3.5 years, for Christ was cut off and ended the sacrifices and oblations in the middle of the week.

The abomination of desolation of Danuel ch 12 is the ending of the light of the churches in the world for 3.5 years when a greater light arises in the saints after the existing carriers of the light are punished for their apostacy.

Trumpets. (nothing to do with meteors etc.)

LA
 

Interplanner

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Even wacko preterists see a gap before the 70th week is completed.


I do, on this side of it (looking back); from their side in 30 AD, with all the rebellion in the country already, it could have happened any time. God gave them 40 years.

So what?
 
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Interplanner

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Please explain your assertion. In normal english



In MAD they say there has to be a huge gap between 69 and 70 because "he" in 70 is AC. So the split the whole thing off X000 years. He has to be AC because it is just not possible for the history of Israel to end with a ruined city and sanctuary. No, they say, it has to end in a thing of beauty as the world defines it.

It does end beautiful, but not as the world defines it. The New Jerusalem, already our mother, is fantastic.

So, to link this split Dan 9 with the NT, the 'sent only to the house of Israel' is necessarily "proving" that there is 2P2P and is part of that program as Tam said in her post over which all of your drueled.

Do you have such a poor memory that you don't know what 2 programs--2 peoples means?
 

Interplanner

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:chuckle:


Go gripe at Tam, Danoh, and just admit that MAD is infested with all the old school crap of 2P2P. She's the one who wrote all this up.

You are so in love with your ability to scoff and sneer and demean that you never deal with details or exact exegetical questions. Which is exhausting to deal with.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Go gripe at Tam, Danoh, and just admit that MAD is infested with all the old school crap of 2P2P. She's the one who wrote all this up.

You are so in love with your ability to scoff and sneer and demean that you never deal with details or exact exegetical questions. Which is exhausting to deal with.

:rotfl:
 

Danoh

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Not sure if true. There are a couple different groups of preterists and I don't think they agree on this.

Yep.

That right there is the difference I keep pointing out to no avail to some of my fellow MADs, on TOL.

The simple distinction, or thing that differs, between looking at a thing simply, or as it is, in its' whole; and doing so through oversimplification, or isolating it from its' whole; ending up in an off-base conclusion from it alone, about the whole.

We ought to leave that to the many expert amatuers on TOL.
 

Danoh

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In MAD they say there has to be a
..

:doh:

That right there is the very heart of why you are so clueless about MAD, together with your frequent admission you have not really bothered looking into MAD.

This nonsense of yours that "In MAD they say there has to be a..." only reveals how incompetent you are at looking at another's words objevtively.

Bad enough you are going by your fool misunderstanding of what is often actually Acts 2 Dispy assertions you also are clearly clueless about the actually intended sense of.

But this consistently imbecilic practice of yours of allowing yourself to read into another's words "they are really saying this or that has to be in order for system to work" only merits the disrespect towards your supposed thinking through on these things that you continue bring on yourself by your continued incompetence.

Other than when a MAD is being as incompetent as you continue to prove yourself to be, MAD is not about needing a thing to have to be.

My sense of MAD is, for example, is a MAD, that is "more or less."

Meaning, moron, I do not need it to have to be anything but what light the next day brings.

You are as bad off as all those world wide, well known expert archeologists; historians; and scholars you continue to obviously so highly worship over the Scripture.

The overwhelming majority of whom continue to assert to this very day, that the Exodus did not happen, despite clear evidence they all are the one's wrong, due to their obstinate insistence on looking at things some two hundred years in the wrong direction.

You are useless at your chosen vendetta; what an absolute hack you are at it :chuckle:
 

patrick jane

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Go gripe at Tam, Danoh, and just admit that MAD is infested with all the old school crap of 2P2P. She's the one who wrote all this up.

You are so in love with your ability to scoff and sneer and demean that you never deal with details or exact exegetical questions. Which is exhausting to deal with.
:chuckle:
 
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