Trumpcare

[jeffblue101]

IF that were truly the case, he would have worked with the ACA to make it better. It would have been much simpler, quicker and he would have had bipartisan support. His true motive for sabotaging the ACA is to stick it to Obama for embarrassing him over the lie of birtherism. For him, the health and life of Americans are less important that his bruised ego and revenge.

It is true. Trump has tweeted his desire to end the filibuster and expressed his desire for a more universal conservative approach.

in order for there to be bipartisan support there must be some type of common ground between both parties. such a common ground simply doesn't exist on healthcare. Rebulicans want free market price controls, less regulations and taxes, more state control on healthcare, less expensive mandates on insurance coverage. Democrats essentially want the exact opposite in form of socialist care. how exactly can there be comprise with such dissimilar views?

 

[Rusha]

It is true. Trump has tweeted his desire to end the filibuster and expressed his desire for a more universal conservative approach.

I can't keep track of his lies. As a candidate, he claimed that EVERYONE would be covered, with better premiums and better coverage. Again, IF that were his true desire, he would have had bipartisan support to fix the ACA. Instead, he and the GOP have bent over backwards to sabotage the ACA. THAT is how little he cares about the health of the American people.

 

[jeffblue101]

I can't keep track of his lies. As a candidate, he claimed that EVERYONE would be covered, with better premiums and better coverage. Again, IF that were his true desire, he would have had bipartisan support to fix the ACA. Instead, he and the GOP have bent over backwards to sabotage the ACA. THAT is how little he cares about the health of the American people.

how exactly do think Obamacare can be "fixed"?

 

[Rusha]

how exactly do think Obamacare can be "fixed"?

How exactly do you believe giving tax cuts to the wealthy and making insurance too expensive for the poor to afford it is a *fix* or valid alternative to ACA? Working with what is in place to make it better makes more sense than tearing it apart. Again, Trumpcare has never been about concern for the health and lives of the American people.

 

[jeffblue101]

How exactly do you believe giving tax cuts to the wealthy and making insurance too expensive for the poor to afford it is a *fix* or valid alternative to ACA? Working with what is in place to make it better makes more sense than tearing it apart. Again, Trumpcare has never been about concern for the health and lives of the American people.

okay lets put aside the fact you think that all rebulicans are greedy,rich white dudes. what exactly can be done to "fix" Obamacare.

 

[Rusha]

okay lets put aside the fact you think that all rebulicans are greedy,rich white dudes..

Please provide a quote in which I said this ... thanks.

 

[jeffblue101]

Please provide a quote in which I said this ... thanks.

it was an inference based on your over the top rhetoric. and you still haven't answered the question on what a Obamacare "fix" might entail.

 

[jgarden]

in what way did Rebulicans undermine Obamacare? the bill was mess from the very beginning.

The Republican House bill has a 17% public approval and the Senate bill is not much better!

How can the Republicans justify imposing a "healthcare" plan that 83% of the nation doesn't support?

 

[dodge]

Of course "dodge" is willing to produce a credible source to substantiate his claim that 5.7 million votes were cast - or does he intend to follow this President's example and spend the next 41 days bluffing, before being forced to admit that their were no illegal votes?

lol, I know only the loony left sources are correct right ? Just like all the polls that keep missing the mark because the nuts are running the polling !

Here is one source among several that cite millions of illegal votes for Killary.


http://www.dailywire.com/news/17769/trump-vindicated-study-shows-57-million-illegals-joseph-curl#

 

[dodge]

The Republican House bill has a 17% public approval and the Senate bill is not much better!

How can the Republicans justify imposing a "healthcare" plan that 83% of the nation doesn't support?

Kinda like the ACA that Pelosi said thy had to pass to know what was in the bill !

Otraitor took treasury money to shore up the ACA which was illegal but nothing but crickets from the loony left.

 

[jeffblue101]

The Republican House bill has a 17% public approval and the Senate bill is not much better!

How can the Republicans justify imposing a "healthcare" plan that 83% of the nation doesn't support?

I agree the bill could be so much better but none of the more robust plans I read about can pass the senate reconciliation process. Senate republicans are caught between a rock and a hard place either pass a watered down healthcare bill in hopes more can be passed in the future or pass nothing at all and wait for Obamacare to collapse.

 

[jgarden]

I agree the bill could be so much better but none of the more robust plans I read about can pass the senate reconciliation process. Senate republicans are caught between a rock and a hard place either pass a water down healthcare bill in hopes more can be passed in the future or pass nothing at all and wait for Obamacare to collapse.

Welcome to the real world of American healthcare that the Democrats faced in 2008 - except Obamacare didn't turn its back on every promise that the President made during his campaign!

The Senate Bill contains $50 billion in bridge funding for Obamacare - which shows that even Republicans think that it can work when it suits their purpose!

 

[jeffblue101]

Welcome to the real world of American healthcare that the Democrats faced in 2008 - except Obamacare didn't turn its back on every promise that the President made during his campaign!

Obama
"If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan":rotfl:
"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor":rotfl:
"We’re going to lower your premiums by up to $2500 per family per year":rotfl:
"I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits – either now or in the future. Period..”:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
if 2008 democrats are your standard than Republicans and Trump have a low bar to pass.

 

[jgarden]

Obama
"If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan":rotfl:
"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor":rotfl:
"We’re going to lower your premiums by up to $2500 per family per year":rotfl:
"I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits – either now or in the future. Period..”:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
if 2008 democrats are your standard than Republicans and Trump have a low bar to pass.

How does "jeffblue101" explain the town hall meetings across the country where angry constituents are demanding that their representatives not touch Obamacare?

 

[Rusha]

Please provide a quote in which I said this ... thanks.

it was an inference .

So you have nothing. Thanks again.

 

[exminister]

Has "patrick jane" read the bill?

Is he any different than most Republicans Congressmen or Senators?

 

[patrick jane]

Is he any different than most Republicans Congressmen or Senators?

Demonrats have not read the bill either, Schumer was against it before it was even released - their whole plan is resist and obstruct

 

[exminister]

Demonrats have not read the bill either, Schumer was against it before it was even released - their whole plan is resist and obstruct

There is a whole lot of that going around. When all else fails read the bill. Ugh!
What goes around comes around.

 

[Jonahdog]

Demonrats have not read the bill either, Schumer was against it before it was even released - their whole plan is resist and obstruct

Democrats learned from the Republicans over the last 8 years

 

[Rusha]

Democrats learned from the Republicans over the last 8 years

In the case of obstruction, I hope so.