After you give us a list of actual things Trump has done that makes you not support him.
Trump Trolls
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musterion
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As if that dodge will help you out.
Get real here. A number of you say it's the far-left who are hating and therefore mocking Trump. You miss that the rest of the World, though not hating him, DO mock him. Trump has made the USA a joke to the rest of the world. He is a walking talking diplomatic disaster. It is not just his live appearances on TV that cause such astonishment, and anger. Lashing out, like he does on twitter, is unbelievably childish.
The news in the UK is that Trump has cancelled his forthcoming visit due to his dislike of Obama's new embassy in some pokey part of town. No one believes this is the real reason, rather the amount of flak he will get. UK leaders breathe a sigh of relief that he is not coming as it will be very hard to handle the PR.
Special counsel Robert Mueller is tasked with trying to find out whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia — and he’s made a lot of progress, fast.
He’s secured guilty pleas from former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, indicted former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and subpoenaed huge numbers of documents. There are indications that he is preparing to haul in the president for an interview.
There remains, however, a crucial hole in the case for collusion — at least, the part of it known to the public. We have not seen or heard any evidence that President Trump personally participated in some kind of illegal election hacking scheme in coordination with Russian agents.
But there’s another kind of case against the president — the argument that his various attempts to undermine the Russia investigation, like firing FBI Director James Comey, constitute criminal obstruction of justice. If Mueller feels he has enough evidence, then he could seek permission to indict and prosecute Trump. It’s not clear that charges can actually be brought against a sitting president, but Mueller’s findings could nevertheless be turned over to Congress — and serve as the centerpiece of any impeachment proceedings against Trump.
That means it’s obstruction, not collusion, that poses the biggest legal and political threat to President Trump.
“If Trump exercises his power — even his lawful power — with a corrupt motive of interfering with an investigation, that’s obstruction,” says Lisa Kern Griffin, an expert on criminal law at Duke University. “The attempt is sufficient, and it seems to be a matter of public record already.”
There are basically two reasons Griffin and other legal observers believe Mueller has such a good case obstruction case. First, the evidence of obstruction is, from what we know publicly, far stronger than the evidence that Trump himself was involved in with Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Second, the crime of obstruction is legally straightforward, whereas it’s not obvious which laws Trump would have violated by accepting Russian assistance during the election.
The public, obviously, doesn’t know everything Mueller does. It could be that the collusion case is a lot clearer, or the obstruction case a lot murkier, than it appears from the outside.
But what we do know suggests that Mueller is taking the obstruction charge seriously, and that his chances of making his case are quite good — unless Trump decides to fire him or his boss.
The evidence that Trump obstructed justice seems stronger than the evidence of collusion
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/10/16855518/trump-mueller-obstruction-case-strong
It's not the crime that takes them down; it's always the cover-up.
He’s secured guilty pleas from former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, indicted former campaign manager Paul Manafort, and subpoenaed huge numbers of documents. There are indications that he is preparing to haul in the president for an interview.
There remains, however, a crucial hole in the case for collusion — at least, the part of it known to the public. We have not seen or heard any evidence that President Trump personally participated in some kind of illegal election hacking scheme in coordination with Russian agents.
But there’s another kind of case against the president — the argument that his various attempts to undermine the Russia investigation, like firing FBI Director James Comey, constitute criminal obstruction of justice. If Mueller feels he has enough evidence, then he could seek permission to indict and prosecute Trump. It’s not clear that charges can actually be brought against a sitting president, but Mueller’s findings could nevertheless be turned over to Congress — and serve as the centerpiece of any impeachment proceedings against Trump.
That means it’s obstruction, not collusion, that poses the biggest legal and political threat to President Trump.
“If Trump exercises his power — even his lawful power — with a corrupt motive of interfering with an investigation, that’s obstruction,” says Lisa Kern Griffin, an expert on criminal law at Duke University. “The attempt is sufficient, and it seems to be a matter of public record already.”
There are basically two reasons Griffin and other legal observers believe Mueller has such a good case obstruction case. First, the evidence of obstruction is, from what we know publicly, far stronger than the evidence that Trump himself was involved in with Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Second, the crime of obstruction is legally straightforward, whereas it’s not obvious which laws Trump would have violated by accepting Russian assistance during the election.
The public, obviously, doesn’t know everything Mueller does. It could be that the collusion case is a lot clearer, or the obstruction case a lot murkier, than it appears from the outside.
But what we do know suggests that Mueller is taking the obstruction charge seriously, and that his chances of making his case are quite good — unless Trump decides to fire him or his boss.
The evidence that Trump obstructed justice seems stronger than the evidence of collusion
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/10/16855518/trump-mueller-obstruction-case-strong
It's not the crime that takes them down; it's always the cover-up.
Behave like the biggest prat in the known world. Even Kim Jong Un appears intelligent compared to Trump.
Look it up yourself, I posted 11 pages of Trump accomplishments listed month by month in the MAGA thread. Lazy leftists, typical.
Leftist???? How rude. I am a communist. HumpdyTrumpty.
Too true.
Arthur Brain
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Arthur Brain
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Why would Trump go to a muslim haven like the UK? They're on their own now, no more help from us.
That's why we sent him.
T W A T
Вся власть Советам, comrade?
Ja, sehr gut mein Bruder. Builden sie das Mexicanish wall like wie had in Berlin in der gut olden tages.
Yes
Arthur Brain
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Sprechen Sie deutsch?YA ne ponimayu.